The Anti-Trump Walkers – Part 2

As pointed out in Saturday’s article, Trump opponents outnumbered Trump supporters in Woodstock on Saturday.

There was no way to get more than a fraction of those expressing opposition, so I took photos of folks and their signs as they crossed the street next to the Opera House.

A “No Hate Allowed” sign and a rainbow flag.

Another “Love Not Hate Makes America Great” sign.

The flow of marchers was not even. Here a woman carries a sign that saves “Imagine” above a heart, while a man quotes Matthew 25: I was hungry and you gave me to eat, I was a stranger and you invited me in.  Immigrants Make America Great!”

“Rise Up” says the sign twice In between,it says, “When you are you knees.”

In the foreground was a common sign saying, “Hate has no home here.”
In the center is a Black Lives Matter sign saying, “In our American women’s rights are human rights. Science is real. Black lives matter. Diversity is celebrated.  Kindness is everything.  Love is love.”  The sign to the left says, “Democracy is not a spectator sport.”

More tomorrow.


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The Anti-Trump Walkers – Part 2 — 56 Comments

  1. Did you see me? Pay close attention to the one littering the square. Zoom in…

  2. Tirio was there supporting Walsh another one who is full of promises and gets into office with a slogan and now he has to wait 4 years to figure out whether he agrees with his own campaign promises.

    Slight of hand just wanted the pay check stay tuned he will show his true colors.

    Oh and I see Paula Yensen in the walkers first photo

  3. The Dude’s in DC and Springfield 💘 it when ya’ll wave your poms and have your little skirts pulled up to high so your partisan is showing.
    T
    he smell of napon the following day is like re-election victory for them.

    Solve anything?

    Na, just keep them divided, that works the best.

  4. I am all for immigration, BUT legal.

    If you want to stay sign up like ever one else did for the past 200 years.

    If you want to be here and don’t want to be a citizen then go to another country.

    Its simple rules.

  5. I still believe all those walkers came from somewhere else; Chicago, Bloomington, Arcola, Carbondale, perhaps México or the Middle East. All those Tronald Dump followers: Downtown Woodstock residents. Undisputable. Or not?

  6. Simplistic analysis of the immigration issue only shows cluelessness.

  7. Angel, First, love your name….

    Now, since you appear to be the latest contender to espouse liberal ideas are the best please pick any idea (one please since this is a blog comment section and not the Chicago Club round table) and tell us how liberals and liberalism are in the best interest of the free citizens of the United States?

    You have thrown out ACA, immigration, jobs, border security, Trump… All good to talk about but please don’t feel constrained to one of those.

    Speak to any one liberal idea which strikes your fancy.

  8. Hedge podge of signs and conflicting viewpoints, they want gay rights but also want Muslims here Lol modern liberalism = complete inversion of everything that holds truth

  9. Liberals travel far and wide to shout and hold signs.

    Conservatives are either at work or with their family.

    We are called the “silent” majority for a reason.

  10. Angel R Llavona

    English as a Second Language (ESL) teacher at Maine Township High School District 207 in Cook County.

    Year – Annual Wages – Employer

    2015 – $130,356 – Maine Township HSD 207 – 21st year teaching

    2014 – $126,791 – Maine Township HSD 207

    2013 – $122,966 – Maine Township HSD 207

    2012 – $120,461 – Maine Township HSD 207

    2011 – $115,432 – Maine Township HSD 207

    2010 – $104,400 – Maine Township HSD 207

    2009 – $098,297 – Maine Township HSD 207

    2008 – $090,995 – Maine Township HSD 207

    2007 – $085,171 – Maine Township HSD 207

    2006 – $079,543 – Maine Township HSD 207

    2005 – $073,913 – Maine Township HSD 207

    2004 – $070,507 – Maine Township HSD 207

    2003 – $060,689 – Maine Township HSD 207

    2002 – $002,550 – McHenry County College

    2002 – $045,716 – Elgin School District U-46 (includes areas of South Elgin, Bartlett, Streamwood, etc.)

    2001 – $027,840 – Elgin School District U-46

    2000 – $033,979 – Woodstock CUSD 200

    Sources: Open the Books Widget, Better Government Association payroll database, Illinois State Board of Education Teacher Service Record, District website.

    ++++++++++

    Starting TRS Tier I pension after 35 years of service is 75% of the average of the last 4 years teaching.

    35 years of service is almost always less than 35 years teaching, thanks to a legislatively hiked benefit while the pension system was already underfunded, of exchanging up to 2 years of unused sick days (340 days) for 2 years of service credit.

    If Mr. Llavona had 35 years of service (instead of the above listed 21) at the conclusion of the 2015 year listed above, starting pension would be:

    $130,356 + $126,791 + $122,966 + $120,461 = $500,574.

    $500,574 / 4 = $125,144.

    $125,144 x .75 = $93,858.

    So if he retires with 35 years of service and never receives another salary hike, his pension would be:

    $130,356 x 4 = $521,424.

    $521,424 / 4 = $130,356.

    $130,356 x .75 = $97,767.

    The pension will increase 3% annually, which means after 24 years, the pension will have doubled.

    Thanks to one sentence added to the Illinois State Constitution as part of the constitutional re-write which was approved by voters on December 15, 1970, the pension benefit is contractual and cannot be diminished or impaired.

    The pension sentence did not receive adequate scrutiny by voters, in no small part since there were so many changes to that constitution.

    ++++++++++++

    The largest contributor to the Teachers Retirement System (TRS) pension fund is the State.

    The state makes the contribution on behalf of the employer (the school district).

    The State Contribution to TRS comes from state revenues such as state income taxes, state sales taxes, etc.

    Anyone paying state income taxes or purchasing an item which is charged state sales tax contributes to Mr. Llavona’s pension, even though Maine Township High School District teacher salaries are in most cases higher than McHenry County school district teacher salaries (Crystal Lake HSD 155 would be the closest).

    Taxpayers owe the TRS pension fund tens of billions of dollars thanks in large part to state legislators including Jack Franks repeatedly hiking pension benefits for decades, even though taxpayers already owed billions of dollars to the the pension fund.

    That is also known as a legislative benefit hike to an underfunded pension.

    So while a legislative pension benefit hike to an underfunded pension is not technically itself a tax hike, it causes tax hikes.

    Jack Franks and Moderate do not explain that to voters.

    +++++++

    Maine Township High School District 207 consists of:

    – Maine East High School, Park Ridge

    – Maine South High School, Park Ridge

    – Maine West High School, Des Plaines

    – Ralph J Frost Academy, Park Ridge

  11. Give her credit for using her own name, even if she doesn’t put each of her sentences in a separate paragraph to make her posts easier to read.

  12. It is Mr. Llavona.

    Obviously Mr. Llavona is not a legislator creating pension benefits or a member of school district management (board member / administrator) negotiating collective bargaining agreements.

    Not sure of his involvement in the local teacher union, which is Maine Teachers Association, IEA-NEA.

    IEA = Illinois Education Association.

    NEA = National Education Association.

  13. Looking at the TRS unfunded liability for Maine Township HSD 207.

    As of June 30, 2015 state taxpayers owed $415,025,449 to the TRS pension fund for Maine Township High School District 207 pensions alone.

    As of June 30, 2015, local Maine Township High School District 207 property taxpayers owed $9,681,689 to the TRS pension fund for Maine Township High School District 207 pensions.

    As of June 30, 2015, adding the sub-totals, Illinois state and local taxpayers owed $424,707,138 to the TRS pension fund for Maine Township High School District 207 pensions.

    Thus state taxpayers are responsible for 98% ($415 Million) of the amount owed to the TRS pension fund for Maine Township HSD 207.

    Local Maine Township High School District 207 taxpayers are responsible for 2% ($10M) of the amount owed to the TRS pension fund for Maine Township HSD 207.

    Maine Township HSD 207 teachers, administrators, and retirees are responsible for zero % (zero dollars) of the $425 Million owed to the TRS pension fund for Maine Township HSD 207.

    Source: Maine Township HSD 207 comprehensive annual financial report (CAFR).

  14. The imported wanker, like this Llavona are the haters!

    They hate this country and dream of turning it into a dreamland of fantasy where everybody gets an ice-cream cone and lions learn to eat hay and sleep with the lambs and an incredible bread machine bakes up manna for all and everyone gets the same salary, yadda, yadda, yadda …….

    but here’s what we’ll get: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nxVNdrgpv7M/VznW43VwWfI/AAAAAAAA9VA/VHkINyRYpbUHEQvyBRT4eqoU90kUXGs1QCLcB/s1600/1.jpg

  15. Rickey is right; and they don’t know anything about history.

    The useful idiots are the first to feel the blowback when the commies take over.

  16. who and how are pedophiles winning? Sorry I don’t understand this one.

  17. Are you not paying attention to the last administration and what they are up to at this very moment? Do you not know that the whole world is based on rulings by the pedophiles? You had better come up to speed with your research because the internet is dying right now as we speak.

  18. Pew Research Center

    November 18, 2014

    Unauthorized Immigrant Totals Rise in 7 States, Fall in 14

    – Decline in Those From Mexico Fuels Most State Decreases

    by:

    – Jeffrey S. Passel, Senior Demographer

    – D’Vera Cohn, Senior Writer

    – Molly Rohal, Communications Associate

    From the report:

    – 8.2% of Illinois Elementary and Secondary School Students had Unauthorized Immigrant Parent(s) as of 2012.

    – “In 2012, children with at least one unauthorized immigrant parent accounted for 6.9% of U.S. students in kindergarten through 12th grade.

    A significant majority of these students were born in the U.S. (representing 5.5% of all students in 2012); the rest (1.4% of all students) are unauthorized immigrants themselves.

    ++++

    The Pew report didn’t state the number of Illinois students.

    There are, however, about 2 million elementary and secondary students in public education.

    From here on out, the numbers used will refer to elementary and secondary students in public education.

    +++++

    The Pew report states that 8.2% of Illinois students had unauthorized parents.

    Thus approximately 164,000 Illinois students had unauthorized parents.

    ++++++++

    Breaking down the approximate 164,000 students with unauthorized parents:

    – 28,000 (1.4% of 2 million) had unauthorized parents and the students were not born in the USA (the students are unauthorized immigrants).

    – 136,000 (6.8% of 2 million) had unauthorized parents and the students were born in the USA (the students are US citizens).

    A child born in the USA is a US citizen even if one or both parents are not US citizens.

    +++++++++++

    The percentages above for unauthorized immigrant students, and students who are citizens but have unauthorized parents, do not exactly apply to the unfunded liability numbers, since the unfunded liability was accumulated over decades.

    But absent some analysis we can get a rough idea:

    1.4% of $425M is $5,950,000.

    6.8% of $425M is $28,900,000.

    Cutting those figures in 1/2, which is probably overly generous, still results in large sums of taxpayer money owed to the TRS pension fund for educating unauthorized immigrant children and children whom are US citizens yet have unauthorized parents.

    Keep in mind that is just for Maine Township HSD 207 TRS pension unfunded liability.

    ++++++++

    If taxpayers don’t understand unfunded liabilities, they certainly don’t understand the amount of unfunded liabilities attributed to unauthorized immigrant children and children whom are US citizens yet have unauthorized parents.

    The government has not been educating the taxpayers.

    +++++++++

    Yes we know some unauthorized immigrants pay taxes, work, etc.

  19. Over 28 hours since issuing yet another challenge to all liberals, specifically the latest rude commenter, and absolutely no intelligent or intelligible response.

    If there was one liberal who had the intelligence, training, education or desire to defend their absolute wasteland of philosophic integrity or ideas it would be shocking.

    These fake Democrats wanting liberalism and socialism to reign supreme in the Democrat Party are disengenuous and hollow.

    They will simply yell for whomever pays them or offers them whatever they believe gives them power.

    Why are Americans afraid of these people?

    Step up.

    Not a single solitary one has ever once been able to respond here or in real life.

    Not once.

    Ever.

  20. Priest?

    Because, like Mark pointed out, this one is a teacher.

    That means they are indoctrinating our children.

  21. I know that to you it might be inconceivable, but have you ever considered that a liberal might feel that your arguments are weak and not worth refuting?

    Then you throw out the straw man idea that Americans are afraid of “these people.”

    Followed by the false set up “not … one has ever once been able to …” lol.

    Weak. Not well thought out. Do others respond to your churlish goading?

    Yawn, faintly entertaining yet at the same time pedestrian and boring.

  22. If a liberal had an argument they’d express it.

    If they had intelligence they’d have the ability to understand their argument and express it.

    If a liberal had any coherent thoughts whatsoever they’d understand their argument, express it and offer a clear argument to the average person why their thoughts matter.

    To say any argument has ever once been made to ignore shows you haven’t been “Watching” pumpkin.

    No liberal has ever once offered an argument nor has offered any refutation of anyone else’s argument to show their “weakness”.

    It would take an actual position or argument from a liberal to have any exchange of ideas.

    You, Watching, have offered no position, no argument, not even any evidence your chosen moniker is true.

    Try harder. Liberals, liberalism and the New Democrat Party deserve so much better than your offering.

    You can do better.

    We’re rooting for you.

  23. There is no such thing as a silent conservative majority. Republicans are very good at winning elections, gaining power, and staying in power despite being a minority in this country. They have lost the popular vote in 6 of the last 7 general elections. They are a noisy minority that knows how to win elections and shape policy; but not a majority.

  24. How exciting! The beginnings of some formulation of an argument!

    Okay Angel. Let’s help you a bit since your response is unclear in its intent.

    You have two or more arguments here.

    One argument appears to be the “Silent Majority” as defined as conservative people who don’t demonstrate but who vote monolithically do not exist.

    Not sure how to prove folks who are silent don’t exist but you seem to refute your own point in the next sentence by saying Republicans, a sub set of the Conservatives, win wholesale over Democrats in spite of being “lesser in number”.

    In America there are only two ways to win an election, Angel: have more votes thereby having a majority or have more Electoral votes(in the case of the Presidential election) thereby having a majority of electoral voters in the nation.

    Without commenting on whether a “majority” can constitute a “minority” as well It may help if you understand what the electoral process and voters mean(in the simplest possible terms).

    Equality for all voting blocks.

    There is quite a bit written about how the popular vote vs the Electoral College are compared but that is the simplest explaination.

    As far as Republicans being excellent at shaping public policy I would urge you to read about Mike Madigan’s(he’s a Democrat) masterful control of Illinois and its public policy for over 4 decades.

    Angel, do you have any specific liberal policy for which you can offer and illuminate how it is better than a conservative policy?

  25. The majority of Americans support Universal Health Care. The majority of Americans support universal college. The majority of Americans oppose cutting Medicare and education funding.

  26. The majority of Americans also support universal child care and pre kinder programs.

  27. The most evident instance in which my compassionate conservative friends show they are a very noisy (but politically effective) minority is on the issue of undocumented immigrants. Most Americans, nearly two thirds, favor a path to legalization and citizenship for them. However, irresponsible radio talk show hosts and cable news outlets have manipulated public opinion for more than 2 decades portraying them as a drain to the United States’ economy. The truth is undocumented immigrants pay billions in federal, state, local, and sales taxes. These are just the facts. My reactionary conservative friends consider these “fake facts” as everything else that does not align with their hateful view of the immigrant. Additionally, undocumented immigrants are statutorily excluded from tax-payer funded programs (food stamps, social security, welfare, among others) with the exception of emergency health care and public education. The next time you dine out in a restaurant (even fancy restaurants), remember your meal was prepared by undocumented immigrant hands. The next time you stay at a hotel, remember most of the kitchen and maintenance employees are undocumented immigrants. The next time you drive by a construction or renovation project, keep in mind most, if not all workers are undocumented immigrants. These facts are well known by my reactionary friends. The perplexing part is that they still insist in directing their anger towards the immigrant instead of the employers who hire and exploit them. And please do not even try to bring the silly argument that immigrants “drive down wages”, while vomiting hateful attacks to the labor unions every day. What bargaining power an immigrant has against an employer who can threat him/her with ICE? It is time for a town hall meeting with Peter and Randy. I volunteer to be the MC. I promise to be neutral. 2018 please don’t delay…

  28. Okay Angel. These are quite a few subjects. We’ll try them out.

    If the majority of Americans support Universal Health Care and this point was granted to you there would need to be a definition of what exactly “Universal Health Care” means to each of these people who are making up this “majority” since no single worldwide accepted definition of this exists.

    You may want to more narrowly define what is “Universal Health Care”.

    To attempt to help you one might say 100% of people need health care, deserve to live healthy lives and agree a First World nation, such as the United States, should never exclude anyone from receiving reasonable care.

    Now we may further say a majority of the people in the US agree with this statement.

    What else would the majority of Americans agree upon as it pertains to health care?

    What do liberals believe is the best course of action to achieve these ends?

    When you say “Universal College” are you saying zero tuition college?

    When you say the majority of Americans oppose cutting education or Medicare funding what does this mean to you as it pertains to a liberal vs conservative argument since only the most radical on both sides would disagree.

    This is already agreed upon bilaterally.

    When you say the majority support “universal child care” no one knows what you mean as there are no current, historic or future programs in the private, charitable or public domains upon which to base some context.

    What does this mean to you and how is it a liberal or conservative issue?

    There are already Pre K programs in private, charitable and public domains. How is this a partisan issue?

    Your trying. Credit to you. Now make one good liberal argument for or against anything and you’ll have done something magnificent.

  29. Whoa! Angel! You were busy on the immigration post so let’s explore this together.

    In a world where more than one opinion exists it is considered by polite people the world over to be exceptionally rude to take one side of an argument and then presume the totality of the opposing argument is something you may present as well.

    Stick to one side and then everyone is clear you are being both reasonable and clear.

    Immigration.

    First, to presume immigrants are only preparing meals, working in hotels, doing maintenance or working in construction…. Honestly…. Someone would need to know you better to make the judgement whether you’re racist or just unbelievably ignorant of the world of people around you so no judgement may be made.

    Moving on…

    Immigration is a huge issue and has been for generations.

    For all the reasons you have stated both Democrats and Republicans have kept serious immigration reform from happening.

    It serves Democrats to have a ready new supply of ignorant people to vote for them.

    It serves Republicans to have a ready supply of cheap labor to exploit.

    Without addressing whether anyone in this country illegally pays taxes or consumes public services the bottom line is these people are in a sovereign nation with laws against their even being in that nation.

    How do we solve the problem of illegals in the nation already?

    How do we address the problem of a continued unmitigated flow of more illegal immigration?

    Should we?

    How is this a partisan issue Angel?

    This seems to be an issue of Law.

    Since both ideologic political groups have exploited this issue and law for generations perhaps we should deport them all and get a few reasonable people unbought by special interests to figure this out.

    Immigration isn’t a partisan problem.

    The solutions aren’t partisan.

    Only the partisan morons benefiting financially and politically from not dealing with this issue are the problem.

    Start with getting rid of them.

  30. Stating most if not all workers on a construction project are undocumented workers is absurd.

    There are over 200,000 construction workers in Illinois, both union and non union.

    Many of them are American citizens.

    There are Americans who prepare meals in restaurants.

  31. Only in Angel’s fake myopic world do those majorities exist. Only a majority of Obamaphone users may think like that. His arguments are based on fallacious statements. I wouldn’t bother to try to teach this nitwit anything. Anyone that tries to tell you they know the popular vote of anything is a liar. They only see what their twisted worldview sees. Not that popularity has anything to do with anything, anyway. Everybody likes candy – therefore candy is good. See how stupid that is? You cannot debate an idiot.

    A majority of communists and socialists like all the universal claptrap Angel is behind. No one hates immigrants. More baloney from this moron. What people hate is the illegal aliens that have stolen from this country and then try to claim some kind of right to be here and continue to screw our system. You being a teacher, what part of illegal do you not understand? The real immigrants that worked hard to get here and become citizens through the proper channels are even more angry with the “undocumented” as you call them.

  32. Extra, extra! Honorable congressman Roskam came alive and declared he prefers phone town hall meetings. he is not that crazy about facing constituents to answer questions about the issues affecting their lives. Ooops! 2018, don’t delay…tic tock, tic tock…

  33. Of course it is not convenient to address the issue of the economic impact of undocumented immigrants in this country. They are exploited, intimidated, taxed at a higher effective rate than the rest of tax-payers, barred from most tax-funded government services and demonized as the root cause of the problems in our society. My dear compassionate conservative brothers and sisters, please join me in a display of solidarity and unity to demand Peter Roskam to support Comprehensive Immigration support with a path to citizenship for all undocumented workers, the real backbone of the United States’ economy. This is, after all, a blog of unity. By the way, where is Peter? Tic tock, tic tock…

  34. Sooooo… Nothing from you Angel?

    You attempt to bounce from subject to subject stating nothing, offering nothing and giving no liberal positions whatsoever?

    Is your sole intent not to further a philosophic agenda or idea but to attack people and their values?

    This is how a child acts when they are ill trained by their parents.

    Be better.

    Be what we all hope one liberal in all the world can be.

    Intelligent.

    Just try.

  35. What would the solution be to help the people in this nation illegally?

    Do you have one Angel?

    What are you offering which hasn’t been addressed and found to be unclear, incoherent or incomplete?

    Try harder sweetheart.

    Many are pulling for you to have a breakthrough!

  36. A good way to start a conversation, debate or resolving an issue is to find common ground that all share.

    I do believe we all love America!

    If you do not, it means you have never traveled to a country where a blog like this would be considered illegal, and the people responsible for or commenting on could be locked up and/or executed.

    Let us thank God for the First Amendment and those that exercise it without fear. And thank you Mr. Skinner.

    Financial stress causes enormous problems to governments as well as individuals. Complaining and blaming might feel good for a moment, but the issue only gets worse.

    I have a plan that Republicans, Democrats, Independents, Socialists, communists, LGBT, undocumented immigrants, and anyone with the ability to examine an issue without prejudice should be able to appreciate and support.

    Yes, Ersel, I am including you in this group!

    Re-legalize the most useful plant on earth. cannabis hemp.

    I have personally felt the sting of rejection and ridicule for suggesting that America has been fed a smorgasbord of FAKE NEWS regarding this remarkable plant.

    I carry on with Truth as my foundation.

    The history of cannabis hemp prohibition in America is based solely on greed, the love of money, the root of evil. Prohibition of hemp has NOTHING to do with ‘keeping the children safe’ NOTHING!

    Illinois was once a huge producer of hemp and hemp products.

    Today we import hemp from China and Canada.

    Hemp can be used for anything fossil fuel can be used.

    Maybe that is the problem?

    I am acutely aware that career politicians of all stripes do not want to spill the gravy train by bringing forward ideas that upset the financial powers that fuel their re-election plans.

    That’s a fact, folks.

    All one needs to do is follow the money and you will see that the major opposition to cannabis reform are:

    #1.Casino owners, most notably Sheldon Adelson, the biggest financial contributor to defeat medical and rec. cannabis. Sheldon is now lobbying his good buddy Pres. Trump to keep locking up people that consume weed instead of spending money buying alcohol at his casinos. Weed and booze don’t mix. Not sure ’bout weed and gambling.

    #2. Big Pharma. Where cannabis is legal, deaths from pharmaceuticals, especially opiods, are dropping, so are suicides and drunk driving deaths. Big pharma and alcohol distributors are aware that their profits will decline when people have freedom of choice.

    #3. Fossil fuel magnates. Hemp does not require the pesticides or herbicides like cotton, corn and soybeans do. Sales of these VERY TOXIC chemicals would decline, but the environment would benefit.

    #4. Prison industrial complex: Private prisons make money locking non-violent people up. What is the difference between this and slavery???

    I could go on and on and on, please check out youtube for more insight. search hemp prohibition for starters.

    And of course, putting the billions of tax derived dollars from legal cannabis production into the state coffers instead of the drug cartels, gangs and foreign countries would be very helpful in reducing finacial stress.

    I estimate Illinois would generate at least 50,000 new good paying jobs between industrial hemp and med/rec. cannabis production.

    NOW FOR THE HARD PART! What to do.

    I have found my many letters to politicians are basically a waste of time.

    Can someone on this blog help me find a politician that is unafraid of the ‘powers that be’ and reinstate Federal freedom?

    Thank you.

  37. jeff sessions said that bad people smoke marijuana. Now he does not recall. 2018 please don’t delay…

  38. Oh, yeah, Gary. Good plan just get ahold of a politician to help you. The politicians will not even STOP the poisoning of our air, food and water! What makes you think they can do anything for your agenda? They don’t want you happy or healthy. They want you dead! And the truly stupid ones just want to keep their plush jobs. Nobody cares, Gary!

  39. Excellent post! An agenda under which all americans can unite. Wait a minute. This is the McHenry county sunshine blog where every conspiracy theory flies high and you are only allowed to agree with compassionate conservatives. Dear Peter Roskam, please talk to us. you are my voice in congress. Nobody uses land lines anymore, unless you are 75 or older. 2018, don’t delay.

  40. An unafraid politician? I’ll give you two. Peter Hultgren and Randy Roskam. Yes, they are the same thing. Tic tock, tic tock…

  41. Sweet baby Angel…

    You are very clearly incapable of the simplest of conversations.

    We are so sorry for your failures.

    We all had such high hopes for you to intelligently carry the liberal standard.

    Third graders have been capable of better standard bearing than you.

    We will continue to observe your childish posts with the same bemusement we do an infant playing with their toes.

  42. To those of you who just called and texted in effect, “Why do you bother even trying to have a conversation with liberals” I say this…

    When, in a free society formed upon a common idea rather than a common cultural background, we stop attempting to talk to one another, educate or offer the public forum to do these violence will be the result.

    People like Angel clearly aren’t raised well, aren’t educated well and offer little to the furtherance of American society, culture or ideas.

    It is incumbent upon all of us to attempt to engage people like this to stop them from committing violent acts because of their impotent inability to communicate with others well or positively.

    I engage because I hope.

    There is always hope for the Angels of the world they can better themselves.

    Isn’t that exactly the promise of America?

    One may rise or fall on one’s own ability, education and hard work, not because of some artificial class structure or violence committed to shut down ideas.

    Angel is symptomatic of a widespread and growing problem of a lack of training, education, upbringing and critical thinking.

    We hope to slow or reverse the trend toward violence through constructive engagement until such time the trend is irreversible.

    We aren’t there yet but Angel’s posts indicate we are near a tipping point so those who desire peace best get involved and engage now before you or your children are forced to do so later.

  43. Yes, Priest, and then Mark 6:11; Matthew 10:14; Isaiah 52:2; Luke 9:5

  44. Angel your wings have been clipped !

    Priest bravo on your truth sermon.

  45. Nice to be outside all day, eat a good meal, tune in the blog and see a positive tone to the discussion of freedom! Thank you all for your input.

    We all need help in some way or another, patience too. I am no politician, nor a lawyer, nor rich enough to hire one.(a lawyer that is).

    But I am an American, with a dream to see hemp fields in McHenry Co. We need to help the American Farmer, AGREE? Hemp will help so much, I can not begin to speak of the diverse richness of this incredible plant because the topics are so broad. Questions? http://www.votehemp.org

    I was complaining that my letters to politicians were a waste of time, that is true. One politician that listened was Jack Franks when I would speak with him at his booth at the county fair. I did not follow-up with a formal packet of info. and suggestions for making a resolution. My bad!

    Who knows, Jack might have run with the idea, picked up bi-partison support and gone somewhere.

    That is in the past, tomorrow I should plan on providing info. to various politicians.

    I put this in blog form so I have made a commitment to this task. I will let you know what responses I receive.

    Have a good night, God Bless!

    And again, thank you for attempting to work together on this. Cindy I will read the Scripture versus, appreciate it.

  46. I did forget to mention in reply to Cindy that “Nobody cares”. I understand how we can feel that way at times, but it is a falsehood. There IS someone who cares. Believe me, there is someone who cares!

  47. I think you may have misconstrued my no one cares. In a previous time maybe, your ideas would be great. We are way beyond that now. We are fighting for our very lives. Maybe only fifty percent of the people of the world understand any of this. The world is run by pedophiles and secret handlers. The things I have been saying for many years now have turned out to be the absolute truth. Listen to this radio show where they explain much of the Wikileaks dump from this morning. Learn what we are up against. http://www.trunews.com/listen/rick-wiles-free-society-or-digital-dictatorship

  48. This is huge. This is a real paradigm shift.

    I cannot believe that no one cares about this.

    That no one has even noticed.

    This connects all the dots!

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