McHenry Township Supervisor Puts Cost per Ride on Senior Bus at $15

From McHenry Township Supervisor Craig Adams:

A comment from “Give Us a Break:”

That $15.09 figure represents the DIRECT cost to McHenry Twp. If one considers the source of their revenue, the only true “revenue” is that amount, $ 8,702, paid by the riders.

The grants and vouchers come from. . . wait for it!

Yes, the taxes collected by government and redistributed.

Ergo, the actual cost (from all sources) per ride is more like $23.82 per ride.

TANSTAAFL = There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

Steve Willson adds:

The total cost is $20.00 per ride.

The average cost of an Uber ride or a taxi ride in this area is around $7.00.

And the program is not means tested.

And From Dr. Pepper:

How many “personnel” ?

What’s gasoline cost per gallon?

What’s mileage per gallon of buses?

How many buses? What is “TOIRMA insurance” and what does it mean ‘buses only” ?

How does the township get away with this sort of accounting?

Are they kidding?

Are they seriously putting this tripe out to justify the bus serevice?

When I worked at Ernst & Young as a principal (Performance Improvement Consulting Group and chief of Wisconsin Cost Management Practice) we ran ‘total cost management’ TCM assessments on various products and services, some of them government-provided services.

This sheet is a J-O-K-E and the government fool who presents this to the public to justify his salary should be fired.

How can an independent assessor, or ordinary citizen for that matter, come up with any accurate information structure to determine a true cost-per-ride, and if this program is good or just another government Golden Fleece.

Government programs like this are typically so flawed they are worthless and would never be justified in the free economy/open mkt.

This childish sheet doesn’t even include all the overhead costs, or down the line actuated pension pay outs attributable to the program.

If this was a publicly held corp., then the CEO/CFO and Board would be charged with a variety of crimes, and civilly liable for gross incompetence.


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McHenry Township Supervisor Puts Cost per Ride on Senior Bus at $15 — 33 Comments

  1. How does that compare to CTA?

    MCRIDE?

    Metra?

    PACE?

    Want to reduce the cost per ride? Increase ridership by eliminating all fares = Democrat / communist / socialist solution.

  2. How can the grant $ be considered ‘revenue’?

    That’s tax money too!

    And the pensions aren’t included.

  3. What BS.

    Look at the the claimed liability insurance.

    $1,000 dollars for how many buses?

    4? 8?

    And what’s coverage?

    10 cents? $10 million?

    Crazy.

    Since when are taxpayer grants considered “revenue” and ‘subtracted’ from the program’s cost.

    Crazy Township world, that’s what.

    This sheet is patently false.

    Aren’t the drivers covered by Workers’ Comp Ins?

  4. Obviously this is a low ball justification to continue the program.

    Deceptive, too. “Ride” is not a round trip. So you can double the “$15.09” cost right there.

    This is not a real balance sheet, put together to show the actual costs.

    The fuel & insurance costs can’t be right.

    The problem is that the number of buses is never set forth.

    Or the mileage per bus.

    How can anybody make sense of this?

    So the Supervisor spends 40 hours a year on this bus service?

    What the hell does he do, and do with the rest of his time? Are Supervisor’s benefits apportioned out, too?

    Who pays for these ‘voucher books’?

  5. That $15.09 figure represents the DIRECT cost to McHenry Twp. If one considers the source of their revenue, the only true “revenue” is that amount, $ 8,702, paid by the riders.

    The grants and vouchers come from. . . wait for it!

    Yes, the taxes collected by government and redistributed.

    Ergo, the actual cost (from all sources) per ride is more like $23.82 per ride.

    TANSTAAFL = There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

  6. The total cost is $20.00 per ride.

    The average cost of an Uber ride or a taxi ride in this area is around $7.00.

    And the program is not means tested.

  7. Wrong, beekeeper, the BIG QUESTION is why the township ever got into the transportation business in the first place.

    And that insurance should be investigated because it’s an obvious misrepresentation.

    There’s no way several buses can be insured as a common carrier taking disabled and elderly in actual traffic for that premium.

    The mileage and ridership has to be part of the equation, or else it’s just a make-believe balance sheet.

    I’m glad this program is canceled, and I live in Algonquin.

  8. No wonder people squawk when this program is terminated.

    The fare is a donation, so how many people or percentage of riders even pay?

    I’d like a free taxi too.

    Can the come and get me in LITH?

  9. Don’t you people get it?

    Disabled and elderly people will suffer if the program is cut.

    Some will die because there’s no transportation to dialisis or the hospital.

    It’s only an extra $5 on your tax bills.

  10. What a waste of $$$$$$.

    What’s next, a Township water park, a Township petting zoo, a Township Retirement home for Township pensioners?

    The Trustees did everybody a favor by eliminating more 10 more pension pigs.

  11. What’s a “trip” or “ride”?

    Why are they differentiated?

    What a crock.

    Does the Superintendent think this is a vital gov’t program?

    Seems like the taxpayers were thrown under the bus for this duplicate program.

  12. How many “personnel” ?

    What’s gasoline cost per gallon?

    What’s mileage per gallon of buses?

    How many buses? What is “TOIRMA insurance” and what does it mean ‘buses only” ?

    How does the township get away with this sort of accounting?

    Are they kidding?

    Are they seriously putting this tripe out to justify the bus serevice?

    When I worked at Ernst & Young as a principal (Performance Improvement Consulting Group and chief of Wisconsin Cost Management Practice) we ran ‘total cost management’ TCM assessments on various products and services, some of them government-provided services.

    This sheet is a J-O-K-E and the government fool who presents this to the public to justify his salary should be fired.

    How can an independent assessor, or ordinary citizen for that matter, come up with any accurate information structure to determine a true cost-per-ride, and if this program is good or just another government Golden Fleece.

    Government programs like this are typically so flawed they are worthless and would never be justified in the free economy/open mkt.

    This childish sheet doesn’t even include all the overhead costs, or down the line actuated pension pay outs attributable to the program.

    If this was a publicly held corp., then the CEO/CFO and Board would be charged with a variety of crimes, and civilly liable for gross incompetence.

  13. I truly can’t believe so many people that don’t care about our senior citizens, disabled senior citizens ,our poor senior that have no other means of transportation.

    This program cost you less then $8.00 a YEAR,

    Is that too much, is there anyone that can tell me they can’t afford it.

    All this breakdown of the numbers doesn’t matter if you believe it or not it all comes down to less then $8.00 a year!

    Why does Mike Rakestraw care, he doesn’t pay his taxes anyway

  14. Getting people dependent on the government, rather than themselves or families is an old Alinsky trick, just ask Obama.

    This is the Soros funded ‘community organizing’ communist organ that is behind all the agitation against dropping the bus program: https://ourrevolution.com/groups/mchenry-county-progressives/

    Mary Mahady and her lapdog Beltran are leading the protests.

  15. Dan Aylward what are you drinking?

    Kool Aid?

    You pulled that $8 figure right out of your lazy rear end.

    Quit whining and volunteer to take these freeloaders to Jewel and fast food restaurants.

    They’ll probably expect you to pay for their purchases, too.

    The McRide program already exists, Turkey Dan.

    Tell them to start using it.

    Why don’t you volunteer to drive them and while you are at it, you can make a tax deductible donation to finance the wasteful bus program.

    No citizenship required to take this freebie bus.

    I’m sick of it.

    You are just another pathetic township monkey trying to keep your empire of $$$$$.

  16. Dan Aylward, I can’t believe you betrayed all the people who voted for you.

    Just another “shank”.

    Shame on you!

  17. Sorry, Cal, the comment you have posted under the graphic isn’t from me.

    Further, the total cost, $248,972, divided by the number of rides, 12,572, is $19.80 per ride.

    And, as I noted in my comment, (1) the program is not means tested and (2) the average cost of a taxi/Uber ride in this area is around $7.00.

  18. “The program cost you $8.00 a YEAR”

    Where’d that figure come from and how was it derived?

    From the phony figures spewed out by Mary Mahady and Craig Adams, township hacks?

  19. I want all Government dependency programs cut.

    Especially duplicate programs with huge administrative expenses that pay for another set of government supervisors getting pensions for no work.

    The game plan is to get enough people on welfare so the welfare grab bags can be expanded.

    It all leads to a violent confrontation in the end.

    Mike Rakestraw, getting taxed out of his home, is the perfect example of the real victim of all this gov’t waste and overtaxation.

    Nobody seems to care about the thousands of seniors who are getting taxed out of their homes to pay for this junk!

    I’m one of them.

  20. All this foo-faa over a hundred people who could take the county bus?

    Does the county bus not let them ride for free?

    I don’t understand what the fuss is about.

  21. Shame on Aylward, he betrayed a lot of people.

    Another RINO tax-pig.

    He said he’d fight for us.

    Now look at him.

    He sold us out just like the rest.

    He should write an autobiography —- “Double-Cross: From Tax Protester to Township Pension Baby, the Rise and Fall of Dan Aylward”

    Dan, I’m getting taxed out of home.

    I’m a senior on a field income.

    I’m a diabetic.

    I cannot afford your giveaways with my money.

  22. Dan Aylward —- why can’t these seniors and disabled take the county bus?

    Why do we need a separate and costly parallel bus service?

    Rakestraw is losing his home because of the taxes you raised.

    Why don’t you care about disabled seniors losing their homes?

    You are a grandstander and phony like so many township employees.

    The empire building has to stop. We can’t afford it, Dan.

  23. Cal, maybe you should FOIA Pace, seems I heard Pace is like $53 a ride?

  24. **the average cost of a taxi/Uber ride in this area is around $7.00.**

    Where do you get that number from?

    Also – how many Ubers/taxis are accessible vehicles?

  25. Guess what. Pace is at least $53 a ride ($106 round trip).

    And that’s about the township really is.

  26. Dan Aylward. I remember him. He paid his tax bill (property) with $1 bills. Now he’s another township mooch. Shame on him.

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