Ives Responds to Shootings

From Jeanne Ives:

Ives Response to Mass Shootings

We need an “all of the above” discussion, mincing no words, about preventing the carnage we have witnessed on our streets, in our shopping malls, at music festivals and even in our places of worship. 

August 5, 2019 – We had three mass shootings this weekend – El Paso, Dayton and Chicago – that inflicted a heartbreaking loss of life on those communities and our nation.

Jeanne Ives

There are multiple evils we must confront as a nation. Some of these evils are readily identifiable like white supremacy as was the case in El Paso. Other pathologies are more difficult to name.

What kind of hatred would lead a brother to murder his sister and to murder the mother of a 2-year-old as she shielded her baby from a shooter’s gunfire, as happened in Dayton?

What do we say to the families in Chicago paralyzed by street gang violence in their neighborhoods?

We need an “all of the above” discussion, mincing no words, about preventing the carnage we have witnessed on our streets, in our shopping malls, at music festivals and even in our places of worship. 

Red flag laws, yes. 

Coordination between federal and state and local law enforcement to prevent people who shouldn’t have guns from obtaining them, yes.

Attacking poisonous, hateful ideologies wherever they breed including online, yes.

Prosecution of criminals who commit crimes with guns to the fullest extent of the law, including leveling individuals up for federal prosecution, yes.

And, as the Wall Street Journal opined this weekend, supporting and promoting cultural and social organizations that create attachments and minimize alienation from civil society:

“These are churches, business and social clubs like the Rotary, charitable groups, even bowling leagues, and especially the family.

“Government programs can never replace these as protectors of troubled young people.”

Yes.

In the coming days and weeks, I will be discussing these topics and soliciting ideas from social service providers, educators, law enforcement and families in our community, particularly those who have experienced suffering and loss at the hands of the hateful and violent.

It is clear we have much work to do.


Comments

Ives Responds to Shootings — 11 Comments

  1. Cal, please, update your pics of Ives, given she did a makeover prior to announcing her congressional bid last month, most notably, chopping off her long hair.

    Now for more substantive discussion.

    Where does Ives stand on H.R. 8 and H.R. 1112? If she were in Congress, how would she had voted in the House for these 2 bills?

    What about a federal assault weapons ban? Would she support one?

    How about a law banning high-capacity magazines?

    Where is the point where a “background check” goes beyond “criminal background check” and what level of privacy do we sacrifice in the name of public safety?

    Would incidents of student discipline as a minor, like we’ve learned about the Dayton shooter, be used for a background check to flag a potential violent person capable of mass violence?

    Do people prescribed anti-psychotic or anti-depressant meds get flagged for background checks?

    That’s just for starters. Maybe Ives’ people can view the conversation thread concerning Congressman Casten’s tweets from Saturday, and use some of the valuable exchange to aid her in coming up with positions she would support if she were elected to the United States Congress.

  2. I just realized something, the 2-year old shielded by their mother was at the El Paso shooting Saturday mid-morning, and not the Dayton shooting which took place after midnight on early Sunday morning, when no responsible parent would have their 2-year old with them out clubbing.

    And that child lost both parents in El Paso.

    The father was killed on Saturday, too.

    Sad.

  3. FQS: Please define “assault weapon” … I mean other than being black and scary looking…

  4. I second that request, Cal. There are much better pics of Ives and that one makes her look all greasy.

  5. I have twice asked for recent close-ups.

    The photo sent has too few pixels for a head shot.

  6. Whatever the policy makers define as an “assault weapon”.

    Don’t get caught up in the idiosyncrasies of what a lethal weapon is that’s sole use is to kill people.

    No more games.

    Policymakers know what they are talking about, and they are the ones making the decisions.

    Let the experts give the legal description, and prevent any loopholes from being used to get around the intent of the law.

  7. So Rich Miller is keeping up with his Twitter though his blog is not being added to with articles.

    Whether Ives is really on-the-level when she wants an “all of the above” discussion in the wake of the shootings, and she has been clear to include Chicago with El Paso and Dayton, remains to be seen.

    And if she flip=flops, so be it, especially if she admits she was wrong on her vote against red flag laws.

    Given the man all of the 6th district Republicans (and this includes the possible candidacy of Dr. Jay Kinzler) want to face in November of next year gave his view of law abiding gun owners in his tweets from Saturday night, before toning it down on Monday, any of the Republicans having a level-headed discussion with the community is an easy contrast that speaks for itself.

    To my surprise, Ives or Sanguinetti have not brought up Casten’s tweets from over the weekend.

    Maybe Ives approach is a way to contrast herself from Casten.

    We’ll see.

  8. The Illinois red flag law was House Bill 2354 (HB 2354), passed by a super majority by both chambers, and signed into law as Public Act 100-0607 (PA 100-0607) on July 16, 2018 by Republican Governor Bruce Rauner.

    One issue of with red flags laws in general, including the Illinois red flag law, is stiff consequences for people who lie to persuade law enforcement and the judicial system to suspend a FOID card and seize fire arms.

    As it currently stands with PA 100-0607, if it’s later discovered the person lied to trigger the law, there are no specifically enumerated stiff consequences.

    Who might be vindictive enough to mess with someone in that way?

    Someone involved in a nasty divorce proceeding for example who has a spouse passionate about guns.

    The following article delves into the issue a bit more.

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    Guns Safe Life

    It Might Surprise You Who Helped Write Illinois’ New Lethal Violence Order of Protection Law

    July 19, 2018

    gunssavelife.com/might-surprise-behind-illinois-new-red-flag-law

  9. A better picture of the candidate has been posted. Understand that the previous picture was used because there was no other available.

    But, consider the use of photos by the fake news and mostly left wing media.

    Many in the mostly left wing media will use photos of conservative/Republican persons where the picture was taken while the person had an awkward facial expression or the photo was captured while the person was uttering a word.

    Given the capability by photographers to take numerous digital photos in seconds, the media and photographer likely intentionally pick the most unflattering to subliminally put the conservative/Republican in a bad light.

  10. When I posted the article originally, I did not have a non-fuzzy photo of Jeanne Ives in her new hairdo

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