IL 66th District: Skillicorn Tweets 8chan-type Blog Smears on Schofield 2A and LWV, Her Facebook Conversations on 2A/LWV, Skillicorn Facebook Accessibility

Carolyn Schofield

As shared on McHenry County Blog on Monday, an 8chan-type of blog, calling itself “Illinois Watchdogs for Constitutional Rights”, cut & pasted a Facebook post image that was published by McHenry County Blog in February of 2018 from McHenry County Board Member Carolyn Schofield’s then-community activist Facebook page.

Schofield, who is challenging State Representative Allen Skillicorn in the March 2020 Republican primary, as Cal put it in his article on Monday was criticized by this blog through:

“…uses a guilt by association argument.

“It notes that Schofield is a member of the League of Women Voters and points to the leftwing views of that organization on guns.”

McHenry County Blog, 9/16/19

And let’s be clear with discernment, the blog is no “group” despite its nice-sounding name. The blog has only been around since early April of this year, at least that’s the dates of the blog’s earliest posts. And this blog does not use names, accept the login ID for all its posts is “ILWD#1”, guess that’s short for “Illinois Watchdog #1”, and the author tab states a “steveta1983” is the one and only author.

Well, under the 1st amendment, people have freedom of speech any way they choose and not using names, but one should be wary of a source like the blog. McHenry County Blog, by contrast, has been a reputable source for local news for 14 years under Cal Skinner.

But then, Skillicorn decided to tweet about the 8-chan type blog posting about his opponent as if it were legitimate news from a reputable group, around mid-afternoon on Monday (time displayed in tweet is Pacific time):

The 8chan type blog posted two updates since its original post from Monday, which are cut and pasted below, the first on Monday afternoon after McHenry County Blog published its article, and the 2nd late Tuesday night:

ANALYSIS: Bad move on Skillicorn’s part to promote such a dubious source in his tweet for his own political gain, and the last sentence in “Update 2” above, I don’t believe the truth in that statement and doubtful any one else will believe it either.

The first “update” above tried to respond to Cal’s observation in his article from Monday. The comment cited was a response to my first comment in that article, and I do not believe it at all. Let that blog publish the names of the “contributors” who live in the 66th district and I’ll take back what I said.

But the 2nd update, from Tuesday, does mention what the rest of this article will share, and that is a Facebook conversation Schofield had about the contents of the blog’s post. The maturity and poise Schofield displayed answering questions was not perfect, but were honest, humble and sincere.

Forget, for the moment, what she said, Schofield facing some hostile questioners after a blog, which in the old days could be referred to as a “scandal sheet”, which in my honest opinion lied about her position on the 2nd amendment, and lied about her involvement in the League of Women Voters, begins to convince me, and likely others, that Schofield replacing Skillicorn may not be such a bad idea.

Since Skillicorn chose to use such a source through his Twitter account, he brought the blog into his campaign. Since his Twitter account is linked to AllenSkillicorn.com, his @AllenSkillicorn Twitter ID is part of his campaign.

Back to Schofield, in most of her Facebook exchanges on 2A, she is humble, and genuinely contrite. Contrast that to Skillicorn’s reaction to this primary challenge, both in his tone in his press releases published on McHenry County Blog on August 22 and September 11, or the tone, the condescending entitlement mentality displayed in his September 8 speech at the Dundee Township Republican Organization picnic on video, and maybe Skillicorn should take a lesson from Schofield on how to discuss issues he personally doesn’t agree with someone, and course-correct.

And speaking of Skillicorn and course-correction, he should also practice what nearly all elected officials and political candidates do when it comes to their political Facebook pages — open it to the public! You have to be logged-in to Facebook to access his campaign’s page?!? I cannot think of any other political Facebook page requiring to be logged-in to read information. That’s like, back in the days of land-line telephones, a candidate not having their phone number listed in the phone book. Hopefully, Skillicorn will allow his “Taxpayers4Skillicorn” page to be public, and no one should have to log-in to Facebook to view its contents.

Here is Schofield’s Facebook conversations which started Monday late afternoon, and go through late Tuesday night. Voters can judge for themselves where Schofield stands on the 2nd amendment. I’m still not sold on Schofield to actually vote for her since there are many other issues in this election, yet the events of this week are starting to convince me, and Skillicorn really needs to course-correct his demeanor for the 2020 campaign:

Mr. Jeffrey R. Savoie residency unknown

What started as a “gun free zones” continues with a rather dubious claim about bringing a gun to school. I grew up in Texas, and that was not allowed.

While Schofield’s use of the word “hate” is questionable, she explains the use later in the conversation.

Schofield switches to her personal Facebook account to continue the conversation.

An additional particpant, whose profile says he’s from Bull Valley, joins.

Another poster joins, and Schofield, who is now posting late Tuesday night back on her campaign Facebook account, is clearly being honest, and her tone has changed for understandable reasons.

This Mr. Sipla shared several articles which were excluded, and the Illinois story was the incident where a 75 year old man had to defend his property with a handgun in Lake County, shooting one of the 6 teens, who died later. The other 5 teens are charged with murder, under Illinois law.

As stated above, 66th district voters can judge for themselves where Schofield stands on the 2nd amendment, and can also see for themselves and ask why does anyone have to be dishonest about her record.


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IL 66th District: Skillicorn Tweets 8chan-type Blog Smears on Schofield 2A and LWV, Her Facebook Conversations on 2A/LWV, Skillicorn Facebook Accessibility — 51 Comments

  1. Skillicorn has to be the biggest twit in government.

    He has been running for re-election ever since he got elected, somehow overcoming those ridiculous sideburns.

    If he could cite one solid legislative victory I would be shocked.

    Vote for Schofield, vote for anyone but let’s send this jerk Skillicorn back to stocking shelves at a Seven Eleven.

  2. Re: “McHenry County Blog, by contrast, has been a reputable source for local news for 14 years under Cal Skinner”

    I wonder how long that statement will stand up to scrutiny?

  3. Yeah, constantly getting crushed by Democrat supermajorities is totally Skilicorn’s fault, I’m sure the RINO lady will do much better!

  4. Cal,
    I can’t really say that you are a reputable source for local news since you seem to parrot Democratic talking points. I’ve reviewed your blog’s history using the Waybackmachine (https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://mchenrycountyblog.com) which I encourage all of your readers to peruse.

    For example, in 2005, when you first started to publish this blog, your December 2005 post regarding the pension issue in IL, you state: Part V – More on Pensions: Defined Benefit — Good; Defined Contribution– Bad

    ———————————————————————

    Part V – More on Pensions: Defined Benefit — Good; Defined Contribution– Bad
    Most people in the private sector no longer have “defined benefit” retirement programs. Those in the public sector in Illinois do. In a “defined benefit” program, one gets a pension that is predicted before one retires.

    Most in the private sector have a “defined contribution” plan. In it, the employer does not promise to give you so much money each month after your retire. The reporter gives you so much per pay period while you are working and you are on your own after you retire. Often, such “defined contribution” plans are combined with employer-matched retirement plans, such as, a 401(k) plan.

    Read what the SEIU thinks of defined contribution plans here (https://web.archive.org/web/20051227064018/http://mhbtherestofthestory.blogspot.com/2005/12/part-v-more-on-pensions-defined.html).

    # posted by Cal Skinner : 12:15 AM 0 comments

    ————————————————————-

    In this particular post, you seem to indicate that you think “defined benefits” is better for IL state finances than “defined contribution”. Of course, as everyone knows, “defined benefits” is what is bankrupting IL and sending it careening towards bankruptcy.

    The analysis that you provide is nothing of the sort. You simply parrot the talking points of the SEIU, one of the largest democratic lobbying groups in the nation.

    You provide no analysis, only talking points of some democratic union.

    This is not reputable in the slightest. This type of post is merely serving as a mouthpiece to the Democratic establishment.

    To call yourself reputable is a big stretch of your imagination.

    More to the point, in the post I cited, you are arguing in favor of policies, “defined benefits”, that are out of the norm for almost all public sector jobs, and only exist in the realm of public servants. Somehow, you argue that employees should be “guaranteed” specific future payments regardless of all other external economic changes and issues, which is unacceptable. Nothing in life is guaranteed, in case you didn’t know. Anyone who argues that they deserve a guarantee for life is living is some type of utopian fantasy land that, frankly, just doesn’t exist.

    There is no right, negotiated or not, to guaranteed economic security. By arguing in favor of “defined benefits” you have essentially argued in favor of a future bankruptcy of the State of IL, which ultimately has had the effect of driving hard-working citizens from the state toward lower-taxed pastures in other states, and has send IL into a downward spiral which will end with those who receive “guaranteed benefits” to lesser payments, a lower quality of life for the rest of us, and the general malaise that has engulfed our state.

    While you may gnash your teeth at this post, and undoubtedly will consider deleting this, I encourage you to read books, say by Frédéric Bastiat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Bastiat) about the failures of socialism, which is essentially what you are espousing.

  5. This post is ridiculous and for Cal to allow this on his blog throws the credibility of the McHenry Co Blog into question.

    Allen has been one of the best voices for true conservatives and defenders of liberty and limited government in Springfield.

    The last thing we need is another moderate, willing to compromise with Democrats and allow our rights to be stripped away.

    Any association with the LWV, whether national or local, doesn’t seem to help Carolyn’s case.

    I don’t know why she’s running.

    The seat is safe with Allen.

    We don’t need anymore RINOs in Springfield.

    There are enough there already.

  6. Looking at the web site of League of Women Voters wondering about prominent items they work on or take credit for –

    Fighting voter suppression. Huh?
    Support of sanctuary cities/states and support of local police to not cooperate with ICE
    Supported and promoted motor voter laws

    Looking at pictures of their staff and leadership, there is a huge lack of diversity.

    Only a small amount of males.

    Apparently ok for men to join the League.

    What is the League doing to increase male participation in membership, staff and leadership? Is the name appropriate?

    Should it be the League of Voters?

  7. She should probably shut up now, she’s probably revealed too much about her kinks.

  8. Mr. Savoie, please reread the article. It was very clear what Skillicorn did, and the contents of the Facebook conversation and why cutting and pasting the Facebook conversation had nothing to do with Skillicorn. The only reference to Skillicorn and Facebook was pointing out his Facebook page was closed off for the public to view without being logged into Facebook, and strongly urging him to course-correct given I could not even think of another candidate who did the same with their campaign Facebook page. Schofield certainly has complete public access.

    I am curious about your claim in the Facebook conversation about “…half the kids or more brought a gun to school almost daily. No problems then.” Where did you grow up and when? Judging by your Facebook avi, you do not appear that old. Were these real guns or toy guns?

    But I saw the additional exchange between you, Ms. Schofield and another fellow this morning. Quieter words appear to do you credit, and appears to be cooperation to take your discussions offline.

    As for the reason for the article, as I’ve told throughout my time posting comments and now article over the past 5 months, I’m not hear to tickle ears, but to tell the truth. All of it, and apply discernment to what is happening.

    Let’s all work cooperatively and respectfully, and make our communities a better place to live.

    As the campaign for the 66th continues to progress to March 17, may all the issues, and both candidates’ positions become known.

    And as for Dutch’s comment, didn’t David McSweeney show how to get things done in Springfield in spite of being in a superminority in the House for 4 terms?

    Because a time is coming in the 66th campaign, and it was already being asked in comments here, for Mr. Skillicorn to tell us his accomplishments, through legislation he wrote and worked to have passed, he has done in his 2 terms in Springfield? And we will shine the Light of Truth on that discussion, too.

  9. This wasn’t one of your better posts, John. You decried the tactic of using a ”….guilt by association argument” against Schofield, and then you tried to pull exactly the same trick on the ILWD4CR blog by comparing it to 8chan, despite the fact that there is no connection whatsoever.

    There were some genuinely dangerous people posting on 8chan, and the site was also known for distribution of kiddie porn.

    I didn’t see any content remotely like that on the ILWD4CR blog.

    About the only thing the two sites have in common is a degree of anonymity, and steveTA1983/steveTA84 isn’t really very anonymous.

    He’s very well known on illinoiscarry.com and other firearm sites, and I’ll bet you could contact him pretty easily if you wanted to.

    It appears that you are a supporter of Carolyn Schofield.

    That is certainly your right, but you really shouldn’t assume that everyone who opposes her is some kind of extremest nutjob.

    Some of us are just sick and tired of feckless, unprincipled politicians who pay lip service to the Second Amendment and then start talking about “common sense” restrictions.

    I have far more respect for out of the closet liberals who are at least honest about the fact that they want to heavily restrict our gun rights.

  10. **If he could cite one solid legislative victory I would be shocked.**

    Here is the list of bills that Allen Skillicorn has passed in his three years in the legislature:

    HB3033: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/fulltext.asp?name=100-0491&GA=100&SessionId=91&DocTypeId=HB&DocNum=3033&GAID=14&Session=

    HB1483: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?GA=100&DocTypeID=SB&DocNum=1483&GAID=14&SessionID=91&LegID=104002

    That’s 2 bills in the 100th GA and 0 bills in the 101st GA so far.

    Getting things done for the 66th District!

    **didn’t David McSweeney show how to get things done in Springfield in spite of being in a superminority in the House for 4 terms?**

    Context: McSweeney passed 4 bills this past legislative session. 4 bills in the 100th GA. 6 bills in the 99th GA. 2 bills in the 98th.

  11. Billy Bob, thank you for your feedback. Opinions vary, but I respect them all, particularly opinions that did not agree with my post yet it was shared respectfully as you did.

    The only thing I knew about 8chan is the anonymity component. Yes, El Paso taught us many things about 8chan and 4chan, and I didn’t know about the distribution of kiddie porn, though it shouldn’t surprise me.

    My Google search on the steveTA1983 did reveal the various forums where they are active, and opinions vary on them, too.

    Fair enough about my use of adjective of 8chan, or to be precise “8chan-type”. Though you didn’t bring it up, the “scandal sheet” comparison is a similar to the 8chan (and I know a lot of readers are not old enough to know what a “scandal sheet” was). I do stand by the opinions that the blogger lied about Schofield’s stance on the 2nd amendment, and her involvement with LWV means she supports their liberal policy positions.

    To be honest, I didn’t know about LWV’s positions on a variety of issues, just always thought voter participation was their mission, and the men and women I’ve known over the years who are members were only concerned about voter participation and voter education at elections. Now that was a learning for me. But from Schofield’s own admission, she was involved in the McHenry County chapter of LWV for the same reason my friends were, several of whom would be considered “conservatives”.

    There is a bigger issue here which your feedback didn’t touch, and I thought about but was prompted not to touch it when I wrote the article, but I will raise it now. The discussion of the 2nd amendment, especially in the past 2 months, is the prime example of the polarization of our politics, at national state and local level. Too many times, trying to have a reasonable discussion including outside of this blog, a passionate 2nd amendment supporter will either call me a “communist”, “gun grabber”, “nut job”, “hater” and other epithets.

    Maybe this kind of discussion here, will start to change that approach, but sometime, and hopefully sooner than later, the Biblical application of “agree to disagree” will begin to be the norm, again.

    Now let me address the points you made where you are just plain wrong. I was very clear in the article about where I stand in the Skillicorn/Schofield race, and you are right, what I choose to do is my right, but right now I do not know whom I will vote for in the primary. That’s my right, too.

    As far as people who oppose her, I don’t believe they are mentally challenged, which is why I shared full context, like the Facebook posts, and let people judge for themselves on where Schofield stands on the 2nd amendment.

    As for content of ILWD4CR blog, your comparison to it not reflecting certain components of 8chan has some credibility. That does not mean what ILWD4CR acted appropriately. For example, the blogger collected all of Ms. Schofield’s personal information including her home address and telephone number and county email address and placed it within a post with some negative information for political purposes.

    With the 1st amendment comes responsibility, and if I were that blogger, I would have thought twice about posting all of that personal information in the context of a post calling-out where she stands on an issue. While public officials’ contact information is public information, the blogger opened themselves up to liability for handling her information the way they did.

    Did you see the reference in one of Schofield’s Facebook responses above where someone said AR15s are used to take out “…politicians and soccer moms like me.” She also pointed out “vulgar names” being thrown at her, too. Now I believe that was in the context of her post on Facebook from February of 2018 which was in the wake of the Parklands, FL mass shooting that month. I hope that gave pause to you as it did me.

    All that said, harassment statutes that are linked to someone taking publicly-available information and making it available in a context that could make someone do something foolish, could be applied to the ILWD4CR blog and its blogger.

    And this goes back to the overall polarization of our country on many issues, and why it needs to stop and let’s all work together, cooperatively and respectfully, to do so.

  12. That’s funny, bred. What no sustainability? They are all about diversity which is enough for me to know they are socialist/Communists devoted to destroying anything with the semblance of normal family.

  13. AlabamaShake 11:55AM comment response: You are making discernment too easy, given the 2 bills you cited.

    From the footnotes of Carolyn Schofield’s candidacy announcement in an August 21 campaign Facebook post:

    “* HB 3033 from 100th GA was originally filed by State Rep. Tim Butler on 2/9/17 and handed to Skillicorn on 3/30/17.

    SB 1483 from 100th GA was filed by Senator Pamela Althoff and Skillicorn assumed House sponsorship when it arrived in the House.”

    Whether #1483 is an SB as Schofield said (and given it was written by then-State Senator Pam Althoff, I believe it’s an SB), or an “HB” as you said, net-net, Skillicorn did not write either of those 2 pieces of legislation in the 100th General Assembly.

    They were written by somebody else.

  14. “As for content of ILWD4CR blog, your comparison to it not reflecting certain components of 8chan has some credibility.

    That does not mean what ILWD4CR acted appropriately.

    For example, the blogger collected all of Ms. Schofield’s personal information including her home address and telephone number and county email address and placed it within a post with some negative information for political purposes.”

    https://www.mchenrycountyil.gov/county-government/departments-a-i/county-board/meet-your-county-board-members/carolyn-schofield

    It’s part of the McHenry County Government Website.

  15. Dolores (1:08PM) please read 3 paragraphs down from where you quoted, and you might want to read the statute on “telephone harassment”, which can be searched with Bing/Google.

  16. How is it like 8chan?

    It’s just a WordPress site.

    It’s not vulgar or lewd.

    Are you saying it’s like 8chan because it’s anonymous?

    I don’t get the connection.

  17. John Lopez- “Though you didn’t bring it up, the “scandal sheet” comparison is a similar to the 8chan (and I know a lot of readers are not old enough to know what a “scandal sheet” was).

    I do stand by the opinions that the blogger lied about Schofield’s stance on the 2nd amendment, and her involvement with LWV means she supports their liberal policy positions.”

    Are you ousting the Illinois Watchdog bloggers as part of the MOB?

    Your attempts at being discreet with any type of slander-like titles has not been very good.

    John Lopez- “All that said, harassment statutes that are linked to someone taking publicly-available information and making it available in a context that could make someone do something foolish, could be applied to the ILWD4CR blog and its blogger.”

    You did the same by posting those screenshots above, which I believe another who responded to this thread also pointed out. I have to say, you are digging yourself a major hole here.

    It’s also sad that you admittedly tried to dox the bloggers of that site through deep web diving for their info.

  18. John Lopez,

    I’m not seeing anywhere where the Carolyn was being doxed and people being told to harass her.

    As a public official on the county website, it’s all there for anyone that googles her (top result) It’s a screenshot from a public site that shows she is in fact a board member.

    As you keeping beating this war drum, it’s having an effect of desperation and it’s looking like you’re attacking people that she would need to have support her.

    It’s getting out of hand.

    This would have all dissapeared yesterday (I saw Cal’s post that started this) if you didn’t get into attack mode and bring it up again.

    As for me, I’ll have no part of this.

    If this is how you’re going to defend a candidate (by attacking an unknown blog), then that’s your right.

    It’s pretty silly IMO

  19. Correcting, please refer to my comment above to Billy Bob.

    DarLar, hyperbole will not stop me pursuing the truth, and that is where comparison to the MOB that you said, not I.

    The same with the reference to “digging yourself a a major hole here.” and the reference to “dox” is inapposite as there was no malicious intent.

    The screenshots referenced confused me.

    The screen shots are public in social media, and if it’s social media, it’s public, just like anything posted to YouTube.

    People know when they post in social media in a public setting, what they say, including their profile, is public too.

    No PII in what I shared in those screenshots, just Facebook posts and comments.

    DarLar, don’t try to flatter that blog with the plural “bloggers”, as I proved there is only 1 person blogging, or I should say, only 1 ID posting.

    What I found on someone’s Twitter page citing that blog site was enlightening, too, and may be the subject of another article.

    And yes, despite the veiled threats, McHenry County Blog will continue to do its due diligence and we will not be intimidated from reporting the truth, and I will continue to post what I post, make changes as appropriate, as long as the blog owner, Cal Skinner allows me to do.

  20. So now you’re stalking twitter accounts???? This is turning into a personal vendetta. Just wow

  21. No, I didn’t say that was there, either.

    What I said was I wouldn’t have put her PII information through cutting and pasting from the county’s website in a blog posting in the context of her stance on an issue, in this case the 2nd amendment.

    I appreciate your opinion about the silliness, and if you are going to express that to me, maybe some of that feedback needs to be expressed to Allen Skillicorn too, who gave the blog credibility in his Monday afternoon tweet.

    Skillicorn is the one who perpetuated that blog, so your opinion of my choosing to write about this should also be directed to him, too.

    Please, be consistent, because this story would not have been done had Skillicorn not made it part of his campaign.

    I was very clear on that when I wrote this, and was very clear in expressing my analysis that it was a “bad move by Skillicorn”

  22. Nice try, Dolores. I am not a stalker, period, because I have no power. I just write the truth.

  23. I have to be quite honest in saying that after reading another link posted within this thread to another more credible blogger in defense of the watchdogs, you are out of line, John.

    You can use long posts and run ons all you like, but you are just as much as at fault as to what you blame that other site for.

    They too look to be publishing truth whereas you are attempting to dumb down accusation towards someone else because you don’t like them or their stance.

    Cal needs to be more diligent in his choosing of who writes for him and who doesn’t.

    One thing to bring an opposing view to keep a site unbiased, but yours is clearly being used as an attack on others in the same industry as you are.

  24. DarLar, as I said above, opinions vary.

    Please note my response to Dolores at 1:53PM, and I ask you to do the same.

  25. Hi John!

    Got word you were looking for me and was sent a means to reach out to you.

    I am the owner of that other blog that validated Illinois Watchdogs for Constitutional Rights by calling you out.

    I find IW4CR very ENLIGHTENING.

    I look forward to seeing what YOU write about me.

    First and foremost, I have the credentials & backing of National Names, so PLEASE, continue to outspokenly demean and make false allegations towards other bloggers YOU DISAGREE WITH… and make long, redundant personal stances that you call “truth.” Have a Blessed Day!

    SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!

  26. Was there a lie about her being connected to a specific group?

    It’s noted on her bio for the county government.

    Still not seeing why you’re all up in arms over this

  27. John,

    You are clearly upset about the article/connection I posted. So here’s what’s up:

    After the Election of JB Pritzker, a group of us formed a group (ILWD4CR).

    15 people are in it in IL. Some contribute (about 8 or 9), others are there for discussion.

    Our goal is primarily 2nd amendment related.

    That’s what people in the group investigate, research, and do open records requests on.

    We are NOT big nor do we claim to be, and yes, I am the one the compiles the information to write up an article.

    We are not professional and are purely grassroots (no funding, no home base, no leadership).

    The intent is to get information out that the press doesn’t touch (standardized press is much more selective, as you know).

    We are 2A defenders, plain and simple.

    I’ve been the one writing the blog articles because people have a right to know information.

    If you have read through it, it’s all pretty consistent to the mission (2nd amendment related) as is the “twitter” page (people have much worse on thier’s).

    As of April, it (WordPress site) has had 38,762 visitors.

    Some of the findings have been sourced in pro-2A articles and organizations, such as here, an ISRA bulletin sent out on 7/3/19 to notify members of an event we got word of and published an article about (go to bottom for link):

    http://archive.aweber.com/awlist4894361/DLcUt/h/ISRA_Alert_Gun_Control.htm

    You said you’d listen to the ISRA if it was sent out in a response to Cal’s post from the other day, right?

    Some of the articles posted are opinion based w/sources (such as the one w/Carolyn Schofield), and others are more factual w/FOIA grabs.

    Myself and the people who contribute are not your enemy nor are we enemies of Carolyn S.

    We brought something to people’s attention.

    That’s it, and based an opinion off of what was found (which people are allowed to do with people who are running for office).

    This has gotten blown out of proportion and it also allows Carolyn to address it when she is interviewed and such.

    It’s a big issue here in McHenry county.

    Thank you for the dialogue.

    It’s out there now.

    Now put your personal opinion of myself and others aside.

    t’s over with and we moved on (new article posted yesterday).

    If you’re done, I/we are.

    We’re not enemies.

    We have enough out there already in this state.

    Have a good day and great upcoming weekend

  28. With the addition of MomAtArms and ILW4CR #1 respective comments from this afternoon, I must give thanks to God that putting me into the place to shine the light of truth have brought these two individuals here to McHenry County Blog.

    When I am guided to write about anything, I’m being guided by the only One and true Name that matters, and He has brought the two of them, the Illinois Watchdogs 4 Constitutional Rights, to us all.

    I do what I am told, and by an act of God, they are here.

    And because they posted respectfully here in a comment, I have their respective email addresses which I will keep private in the event they need to be contacted again, directly and privately.

    I did not have that before, and I was averse to use the “contact” means on their blog.

    Let us all remember what prompted my article of this morning:

    State Representative Allen Skillicorn’s Monday afternoon tweet bringing the IL Watchdogs into the campaign for the 66th district.

    It would be interesting to know if Skillicorn had permission of MomAtArms or ILW4CR #1 prior to sending his tweet to over 7,600 followers on Twitter.

    And speaking of permission, certain McHenry County Blog related permissions can be discussed offline.

    The bulk of MomAtArms, including some vague reference to being called-out somewhere outside of McHenry County Blog is news to me.

    If it crosses my path, I’ll deal with it.

    Focusing on ILW4CR #1, the background information you presented, and the respectful way you did so, is a genuine credit to you, and I thank you.

    Wouldn’t this information have been appropriate to post somewhere on your blog, or on a site, to let others know who your group is?

    I saw the Twitter page reference, which was easy to find seeing you responded to a Twitter conversation started by Allen Skillicorn’s Monday tweet.

    But that aside, I stand by the opinions posted about lies/aspersions whatever euphemisms you want to apply.

    Carolyn Schofield says she supports the 2nd amendment, maybe not to the passionate level ILW4CR #1, and others do, but she believes in it, and back in February 2018, she asked a genuine and sincere question.

    Dialogues have begun on her Facebook page, and that is good.

    The LWV lie I found objectionable for reasons I’ve already commented, meaning she joined the local chapter to help encourage voter participation in local elections.

    Using that sincere reason for membership as an extension of supporting the liberal policy positions of the national LWV is wrong, especially when she has said so.

    And as I pointed out above, it’s fine to be a passionate 2A defender, “plain and simple”.

    Wouldn’t it be wise to engage respectfully with people who also support the 2A, without lowering yourself to calling them names, threats, etc.?

    You will find winning more to your cause with a carrot instead of a stick will expand your position and influence.

    I know ILW4CR #1 is not responsible for the actions of others, but encouraging respectful dialogue within boundaries can only help the 2A cause.

    Given ILW4CR #1 has stated our difference of opinion is over and their group has moved on, then so will I.

    I know ILW4CR #1 doesn’t speak for others, but they can witness the dialogue here.

    As for the 66th district Republican primary, 2A and many other issues will be vetted over the next nearly 6 months.

    That is how an election works, and that is how McHenry County Blog will proceed.

    It is done.

    Thank you for your contact information.

    It will be treated in full confidence.

    Now I have names, and if any real follow-up dialogues are needed, we will reach out.

    JL

  29. You might want to do some checking around.

    Most all people I know my age and a many a little younger in rural communities carried guns all the time.

    Many schools had gun clubs – which meant those had a gun every day.

    We brought guns inside the school to show teachers.

    Most times at their request.

    They were shooters also.

    I remember guns being used for demonstrations in speech class.

    I did a demonstration in speech class on how to build a gun and make gun powder.

    The point was – If I, an uneducated 16 year old with very few resources, can make a gun, make gun powder and fire a projectile, what could somebody with just a few skills and some decent equipment make?

    That hasn’t changed.

    Only the available equipment is far better now than it was then.

    Get out of your little world and talk to people.

    This was all after 1968.

    The gun control laws of 68 were largely ignored until the 1980’s sometime.

    It was quiet civil disobedience.

    I was asked a WWII vet something about the FOID card.

    He replied something to the effect of He didn’t go to Europe, to come home and put up with that NAZI bullshit

    It was mostly my generation that capitulated and fell in step, both obeying and enforcing those unconstitutional laws.

  30. Just for the record the questions I posed are legit and as yet unanswered.

    I do not vote for candidates that do not answer my questions.

  31. “Thank you for your contact information. It will be treated in full confidence. Now I have names, and if any real follow-up dialogues are needed, we will reach out.”

    Since you do, your word will be taken that it will be treated in full confidence. And no follow up will be needed, as we’re already on our next story (not McHenry County or IL related).

  32. Re: “Carolyn Schofield says she supports the 2nd amendment,”

    If that is true, she would not question magazine size or any other ‘infringement’.

    The Second is straight and to the point: Shall NOT!

  33. I have a friend down where she lives.

    He’s quite knowledgeable about local politics and says she’s really a democrat.

    That’s enuf for me.

  34. wHEN i POSTED THE LINK ON THE fLACEBLOOK PAGE, IT WAS TO NOTIFY Carolyn and give her a chance to set the record straight as to her true positions on the subject. Something she declined to do.

    She doesn’t even have to defend her positions. Just state them clearly.

    If any candidate for any position will not tell me their position on an issue, that is an automatic red flag to NOT vote for them.

    If she stated her position, People could make an educated decision on voting for her or not.

    There was no difference in the rhetoric from the first day to the 2nd

  35. I want to address a comment from John Browning in the article.

    Mr. Browning states: “(notice how you don’t see them protesting and holding events on the south side of Chicago?)”

    If Mr.Browning is not seeing the activism of Moms Demand Action in communities of color, I suggest it’s because he’s not looking for it.

    Not all activism is attention-seeking.

    Different Moms chapters in Chicsgo have held a number of get-togethers in support of Mothers Against Senseless Killings (MASK) which is a community organization in Auburn Gresham that occupies a neighborhood corner so that children can play safely.

    These events take place in the neighborhood and are an important way that MDA recognizes and is trying to help resolve the issue of community gun violence.

    Moms Demand Action can do better, but as an organization, they absolutely understand that gun violence is not just about mass shootings, but also about everyday violence in underprivileged neighborhoods and communities.

    I tried to locate the original conversation but it appears to have been removed so am responding here in hopes that he and others see it and are open to considering that perhaps their views of Moms Demand Action are misinformed.

  36. This thread is like that carnival squirt gun game, where you try to get the clown to the top of the pole.

    Except you don’t get a prize when you win.

  37. Addressing Mr. Mom and any other “Moms Demand” Supporter:

    Moms Demand Action is a reconstructed “grassroots” org from another.

    It’s not some unique creation that came about overnight, as founder Shannon R. Watts proclaims.

    Two links below for proof.

    If you look into their theatrics now, their propaganda pushing a new book on the shelves that includes Shooting Victim’s stories, they are partnered in the PR Work behind that book.

    The info linked below is backed up info and all cited.

    https://www.mom-at-arms.com/post/moms-demand-action

    https://www.mom-at-arms.com/post/copy-cats

    As far as your “Communities Of Color” statement… please note that the backing partner of Moms Demand Action is Michael Bloomberg.

    Together with his Mayors for Illegal Guns, Watts and Bloomberg merged their orgs (first link provided) to form Everytown For Gun Safety.

    This is a link where Michael Bloomberg actually teases and states that he wants to take firearms out of the hands of minorities (communities of color).

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/8/sughed-michael-bloomberg-suggests-disarming-minori/

    Be Blessed!

  38. Mom-at-Arms,

    My comments were a rebuttal to specific assertion made by another (i.e. that MDA isn’t active on the south side). You don’t appear to address them, so I’m not sure why you are replying to me.

    I offer it as evidence but whether you choose to accept or understand the significance of that is, naturally, your prerogative.

  39. Mr. Mom: I just happened to have my browser to this blog still open from yesterday and saw your comment, so I responded.

    Call it boredom.

    You also happened to sound like another commenter on here so it was “naturally” my way of sharing info.

    Mr. Browning made statements regarding Moms Demand Action from screenshots in the article (which you pinpoint in your original response).

    I was enhancing the fact that MDA is NOT who they claim to be.

    And to also back up Mr. Browning’s statements, regarding MDA… (no one mentioned MASK)…

    MDA archives all of their events, canvassing, etc on their site…

    MDA has NOT organized an event in Chicago since 2013. (Link)

    https://momsdemandaction.org/tag/chicago/

    Whether you want to accept that is naturally your prerogative.

  40. It’s good to read that, “Schofield certainly has complete public access”.

    If true that’s something new for this campaign.

    She has been well known for blocking anyone who she disagrees with in the past.

    Not a handful but many constituents, she had a reputation for it.

    As for, “pointing out his Facebook page was closed off for the public to view without being logged into Facebook,”, that is how Facebook works.

    Comparing ILWD4CR to 8 chan is pretty far out there. WOW!

  41. https://www.facebook.com/joanne.e.boardman/posts/10215358829659131

    ‘THE TRUTH ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE!!!’
    ‘There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed.
    U.S. population 328,735,259 as of Monday, May 6, 2019.
    Do the math: 0.009125884% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant!

    What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:
    • 65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws
    • 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
    • 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – gun violence
    • 3% are accidental discharge deaths

    So technically, “gun violence” is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100.
    Still too many, Right?

    Well, first, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?
    • 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
    • 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
    • 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
    • 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)
    So, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities.

    All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.
    This leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state.

    That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others.
    For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

    Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far?
    California, of course, but understand; This is not guns causing this, it’s a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states.
    So if all cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

    Sure, 5,100 deaths per year is horrific…How about in comparison to other deaths?

    All death is sad and especially
    so when it is in the commission of a crime, but that is the nature of crime.
    Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals and thinking that criminals will obey laws is ludicrous.
    Hence the reason they are labeled criminals.

    But what about other deaths each year?
    • 638,169 legal induced abortions in the US (CDC – 2015, nothing more current)
    • 40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
    • 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
    • 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities (exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

    Now it gets good:
    • 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors.
    • 600,000-plus die each year from cancer. You are safer in the Chicago streets than in Cook County hospital!
    • 710,000 people die per year from heart disease.

    It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers, and any other ‘bad-for societal good food’!

    So what’s the point? If our lawmakers and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.).

    A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides……

    Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

    So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns?

    It’s pretty simple:
    Taking away guns gives control to governments.

    The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies.

    It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

    Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs.

    Remember, when it comes to “gun control,” the important word is “control,” not “gun.”

    “In his paper titled “How the British Gun Control Program Precipitated the American Revolution,” Kopel claims that various gun control policies by the British following the Boston Tea Party, including a ban on firearm and gunpowder importation, tells us not only the purpose of the Second Amendment, but its relevance within the context of today’s gun control debate.

    “The ideology underlying all forms of American resistance to British usurpations and infringements was explicitly premised on the right of self-defense of all inalienable rights,” Kopel writes.

    “From the self-defense
    foundation was constructed a political theory in which the people were the masters and government the servant, so that the people have the right to remove a disobedient servant.

    The philosophy was not novel, but was directly derived from political and legal philosophers such as John Locke, Hugo Grotius, and Edward Coke.”

    Kopel writes that two important things underlined the American response to the British policies.

    One was the practical concept of self-defense, which British disarmament measures was making more difficult.
    The other, and more relevant concept, was that “Americans made no distinction between self-defense against a lone criminal or against a criminal government.”

    ANY politician or bureaucrat, including judges, who would infringe upon our inalienable rights as described under the Constitution and Bill of Rights should be removed from office for abdicating their oath to office.’

  42. John Lopez, I find it somewhat irritating that after you attacked me and the post I put up to inform her of what was being said and give her a chance for a rebuttal. That nobody has answered any of the questions I posed.

    I have to say, that makes you all seem like a bunch of flakes to me.

    When somebody says I support the 2nd but. I ask But what.

    When somebody says they want more gun control laws and want to outlaw military style weapons. I ask for more clarification. What do they mean by military weapons?

    I saw one definition of military weapons that included any weapon or similar weapon that has ever been used by the military. That would pretty much outlaw every weapon ever.

    John Lopez, Would you care to give answers for your actions?

    It seems to me you are nothing but a bully posting and running. Apparently you do not believe in discussion.

    Everything I posted was to alert and open dialogue. You made it sound like I was attacking her.

    Since this has all started, I have stated that I would not vote for a candidate that would not answer a question. That is just a statement of fact. Something I have stated many times before.

    I saw no name calling or anything else derogatory in the thread

    Please explain yourself

  43. Skillicorn publicly supported a third party candidate and is still hosting town meetings (as though anyone is interested); Schofield’s performance on the County Board was less than an empty seat.

    How can you score two losers for anyone still interested in voting?

  44. Mom-at-Arms,

    The page you refer to is an archive page that is no longer updated. You’ll note that it has been dormant since only a few months after the shooting at Sandy Hook which prompted the organization’s formation. It by no means reflects the ongoing activities of Moms chapters in Chicago or elsewhere. There have been and will continue to be events where MDA partners with communities of color who feel the largest impact from gun-related acts of violence.

    As for who organizes the event, it makes little difference. MDA members that I know (and others engaged in GVP work) actively take steps to work with partners in other communities, including those in Chicago’s south side.

    The insinuation from the original commenter (Mr. Browning) is that MDA members are not concerned with people but with an agenda, asserting as evidence that members don’t engage with those most affected.

    This is simply false, leading to a misleading narrative within the 2A community.

    Enjoy your weekend-

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