ICE Release of Honduran Teen Makes Top Story in Chicago Tribune

Teenager Meydi Guzman Rivas, who immigrated illegally with her father from Honduras escaping gang threats was released by ICE after being detained five months.

The Tribune story is here.

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ICE Release of Honduran Teen Makes Top Story in Chicago Tribune — 29 Comments

  1. Once again sanctuary City .. Effecting us a non sanctuary City ! Deport

  2. You are some pretty awful humans. Jesus’ teachings would argue against deporting this teenager.

  3. A tear jerking tale for sentimental idiots.

    Let’s replace Americans with thirdwordlers with fanciful stories requiring asylum.

  4. Philippians 3:20
    Leviticus 19:33
    Matthew 7:12; 22:36

    More from Matthew. “Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me.”

  5. Tens of millions of people in many nations around the world face threats to their safety in their nations.
    One nearby south of TX, AZ, NM, CA. What can they do to organize and fight these threats? Anything? Nothing? Just leave and try to get into the U.S.?

    What about in our own nation, U.S., where young boys in cities and without fathers are forced to join gangs or be a target of violence?

  6. You want to play, Martin? You misuse your verses. Your verses are admonishments to play nice. Your verses have nothing to do with keeping nations separate.

    The whole book of Deuteronomy 7 Deuteronomy 32 also speaks of not mixing nations.
    Acts 17:26
    Read Psalm 106 to see why the nations are divided.
    Perhaps you have forgotten Genesis 11.

  7. Which proves the point that you can find something the Bible to support almost any claim.

    Genocide and rape are found there.

    Torture.

    Condemnation of bacon.

    I think Jesus’ teaching on kindness, generosity, and decency were good guides to how to live.

    Coming from a pacifist middle eastern Jew 2000 years ago, I’m not surprised when white USAians want to twist his teaching to justify walls, violence, denial of free will, and war.

  8. I love how little communists use the Bible to beat conservatives up. They never apply what the bible plainly says about LGBTQ sodomites, moneylenders, criminals, false prophets (fake news like NWH, NBC< CBN), right of self defense, etc., but they truck out all these pro-alien passages COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT!

    The Israelites were well aware of the need to respect other peoples' territorial sovereignty. After the exodus from Egypt, Moses and the Israelites lived a nomadic existence for 40 years in Sinai. Since no country, not even Egypt in those days, claimed hegemony over the peninsula, the Israelites could move freely and required no permission. But when they left Sinai, they needed to pass through Edom in southern Jordan, and permission of the host nation was necessary, as Numbers 20:14-21 reports:

    “Moses sent messengers from Kadesh to the king of Edom: ‘Thus says your brother Israel … here we are in Kadesh, a city on the edge of your territory. Please let us pass through your land. We will not pass through field or vineyard, or drink water from a well. We will go along the King’s Highway. We will not turn aside to the right hand or to the left until we have passed through your territory.’ But Edom said to him, ‘You shall not pass through, lest I come out with the sword against you.’ And the people of Israel said to him, ‘We will go up by the highway, and if we drink of your water, I and my livestock, then I will pay for it. Let me only pass through on foot, nothing more.’ But he said, ‘You shall not pass through.’ And Edom came out against them with a large army and with a strong force. Thus Edom refused to give Israel passage through his territory, so Israel turned away from him.”

    Despite politely seeking permission and offering to compensate the Edomites, the Israelites were refused; furthermore, Edom sent out their army to make sure the Israelites did not enter their territory. It is clear: foreigners had to obtain a permit to enter another land.

    Secondly, what about the “stranger” or “alien”? The Bible is not “a living breathing document” that can mean whatever you want it to say. This question must be answered contextually and based on what the key words meant when they were written before we apply what that might mean in our own times. The most significant Hebrew word for our discussion is ger, translated variously in English versions, which creates some confusion, as “stranger” (KJV, NASB, JB), “sojourner” (RSV, ESV), “alien” (NEB, NIV, NJB, NRSV), and “foreigner” (TNIV, NLT). It occurs more than 80 times as a noun and an equal number as a verb (gwr), which typically means “to sojourn” or “live as an alien.” The problem with more recent English translations (e.g. TNIV and NLT) is that they use “foreigner” for ger, which is imprecise and misleading because there are other Hebrew terms for “foreigner,” namely nekhar and zar. The distinction between these two terms and ger is that while all three are foreigners who might enter another country, the ger had obtained legal status. Nekar and Zar had no rights to stay and leech off the Israelites, nor could they possibly claim special status having MORE RIGHTS than the native Israelites!

  9. Another perfect example. You can use the Bible, or any religion’s holy texts, to justify hatred and violence toward others. Thats what violent Islamists do with the Koran, and that’s what you do. Who are the foreigners in the West Bank today? In New Mexico? In Crimea? Are you a foreigner n the USA now? Is someone born here whose parents came from another country. How about a person in the foreign servíce who has a child abroad? Is the kid a foreigner?

  10. Why are we responsible for the chaos of Honduras, or any land?

    Does every Chinese citizen chant they don’t want to live under Communism, and get automatic asylum, too?

    We can’t take in 1.1. billion people, many of them with coronavirus.

  11. You may dislike people who are of other races and other cultures. That is bigotry. The USA is not a sinking boat in terms of population.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/05/15/723518379/u-s-births-fell-to-a-32-year-low-in-2018-cdc-says-birthrate-is-at-record-level

    Your argument about one guy who committed a crime is not valid, any more than my pointing out that most terrorism and mass killing in the USA is perpetrated by white men, is an argument for restrictions on white men.

    The crime rate among immigrants is lower than among the USA population as a whole.
    https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/02/crime-immigration-city-migrants-refugees-state-of-the-union/582001/

  12. Come here legally!

    Like the rest of us!

    Your breakng the law!

    no Bible needed for common sense !

    Bleeding snowflake …

  13. Martin?

    You are an idiot!

    You have no idea who I am married to nor do you know that I have a Mexican grandchild.

    YES!

    Mexican heritage!

    So STFU!!!!!

  14. Cindy, yelling and name calling are tactics people use when they haven’t the ability or resources to put together an argument.

    This story is not about you.

    Children argue that way.

    This story is about an 18 year old Honduran woman.

    As to you personally, if a child of yours had a child with someone of Mexican descent, you have a grandchild partly of Mexican heritage.

    I would call that grandchild an American, but that’s up to you.

  15. Martinez no one likes the uneducated, lawbreaking, welfare dependant illegal Mexican dirtball and their familia.

    Their children have been unjustly enriched with citizenship from their illegal entry, then using them for public services and a welfare check!

    These turds are just playing the system!

  16. Jose, I cannot tell if you are serious or writing a parody.

    Railing against the uneducated while you misspell “dependent” and mix singular and plural forms, then ranting about Mexicans when this story is about a Honduran woman?

    You and Cindy might get together with a map of North America and Central America.

    Honduras is southeast of Guatemala, and does not border Mexico.

  17. You are STILL an idiot! No child of mine had a Mexican child! YOU are a fool! Plus, you are a simpleton. My grandchild is 100% Mexican and 100% my grandchild. Now go stew on that mystery, you moron!

  18. Still, this story is not about you; it is about a Honduran teenager.

    What is your point in claiming you have a “100% Mexican” grandchild?

    That could be true, but it doesn’t make any of your arguments about the Bible more valid, nor your bigotry less bigoted.

    If I believe your personal story claim, so what?

  19. Oh please, you anonymous online coward. Your threats mean nothing.

  20. You are entirely missing the whole point, Martin. This is why you are a nitwit. The whole agenda is to get you to hate and to divide and conquer. You are falling into the trap perfectly. You are a hater for absolutely no good reason and you want to fight everyone on your flawed beliefs that you and only you are right and justified in your opinion. You dislike anyone that doesn’t agree with your fantasy vision. How’s that for bigotry? Fade and Jose are right to castigate you for being the dumb cluck you obviously are. You are never gonna get it and you will be left behind because of your stubborn stupidity. Railing? You seem to be superior at that. Good-hearted people are trying to show you the error of your ways and you just put your fingers in your ears and neener, neener, neener away. (Fade is being prophetic.)

  21. The bigots on here using Jesus to support their hatred are the worst kind of hypocrites and there is a special place in hell for those of you that are using Jesus’ name to divide humans based on made up geographic borders.

    Do you think that Jesus cares if someone is from Honduran, Chinese, Mexican or American?

    f so you have a surprise waiting for you.

    I hope you see the light and stop spreading your hate.

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