IL-14: Commenter Critiques Underwood-Oberweis Debate

From commenter “Neal” comes a critique of the first 14th District debate:

I watched the first one and my grades were

Underwood B
Oberwise D

Several times during the debate Jim tried the same she votes with Pelosi point. Why not say 93% with AOC.

He should be trying to link her with the radical democrats, not just Pelosi.

She wants to be a member of the squad, so treat her like she is.

When asked what his top 3 issues were he should have put the violence at the top not the economy.

That is Underwood and every democrats weak point this year so hammer it.

Explain that the economy can’t get better and covid won’t be under control with large mobs of people causing violence in our streets.

Then ask what she plans to do about that.

He tries several times to get her denounce the violence and was ignored.

If he did it this way, she could still ignore it but it would look much worse.

Overall Lauren is the more skilled debater and performed much better in my opinion.

She was calm and got her message across.

Jim tried to go on the attack but didn’t seem to have much of a strategy other than trow out Madigans name and attempt to get her to denounce rioting.

He seemed to be content to walk away being able to say Underwood wouldn’t denounce the riots, rather than force her into a position where she has to say something about it.

Instead she was allowed to ignore it.

Jim seems like a nice guy and that might be his weakness.

If you want to defeat someone like underwood, you can’t be nice, you must go on the attack and be relentless about it.

The first thing that actually popped out at me in the first debate (st. Charles) was that Jim agreed with his opponent on the first question and at several other points.


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IL-14: Commenter Critiques Underwood-Oberweis Debate — 23 Comments

  1. **Several times during the debate Jim tried the same she votes with Pelosi point. Why not say 93% with AOC. He should be trying to link her with the radical democrats, not just Pelosi.**

    Without having seen Oberweis’s polling, I feel pretty confident in saying that his Pelosi line is poll tested and polls better than an AOC line.

    **When asked what his top 3 issues were he should have put the violence at the top not the economy.**

    Again, I can almost guarantee you that the polling would disagree with you.

  2. And that’s why Oberweis is known as Milquetoast man.

    Never conflate wealth with intelligence as Oberweis so aptly proves.

  3. Ummm…. COVID won’t get any better with *ANY* large gathering of people – doesn’t matter if it’s protestors, bikers or a flock of donors at political fundraiser.

    The virus doesn’t care – it looks for an opportunity, and certain idiots keep providing open windows with a reckless regard for others.

    Very sad and pathetic how deeply America has regressed from those post-9/11 times when Americans cared for each other.

    Now, few care about the 190,000 dead people as the body count continues to grow.

  4. The polls may disagree with me, to be honest I don’t know exactly what they say.

    Maybe following the polls like it’s a religion is not the greatest idea.

    You don’t win a debate with an incumbent by agreeing half the time, you win by attacking them on the weakest issue they have.

    After all maybe people don’t know how far left she really is.

    You won’t see the polling change until AFTER you push the issues.

  5. Guys lost more elections than can count.

    Reads like another loser approach.

    And if he’s basing his answers based on Polling data–its not coming across to the listener/viewer as effective.

    Do your own thing Jim, open up, let loose, she’s a Fake Nurse ,you could stay on that one point alone all night.

    Come back to it again and again.

    People around these parts dont like Fakes.

    So they then would question everything else she says.

    Nice guy giving away ice cream image aint gonna work against her.

    Catalina Lauf would’ve torn this Fake apart and wouldnt need a script to do it either.

    She Loves America, Underwood does not, and Jim I think you just love running in elections.

    Pick it up Man.

  6. If Joe Biden were to win, he will not be in control. The Communists will. The first thing they will do is eliminate the filibuster.

    Then they will pack the supreme court by adding more judges. The electoral college would go bye bye.

    They will redistribute senators based on population – imagine California with 30 sentators. Illegal immigrants and residents will be given voting rights.

    This election is not a Democrat v Republican. This is about a radical left progressive party (communist-democrats) like BLM Underweird, who wish to fundamentally alter the US.

    They want to erase 1776 and they want to go for a Jacobian French revolution complete with guillotines and Reign of Terror.

    Church members to re-education FEMA camps!

  7. **The electoral college would go bye bye.

    They will redistribute senators based on population – imagine California with 30 sentators.

    Illegal immigrants and residents will be given voting rights.**

    LOL – so you think that when the Democrats win, they will magically be able to change the constitution?

    You really should learn a little more about how the US government and US Constitution work.

  8. BEWARE!

    ALABAMA SHAKE IS A PAID POLITICAL CONSULTANT FOR THE DEMOCRATS!

  9. As soon as enough states have signed up to vote for whoever wins the national popular vote, the electoral college will effectively be done.

    That brings up the question of if such an agreement is legal of course.

    The fact that democrats are supporting such an idea either shows they lack an understanding of how our government was designed to have checks and balances or they just don’t care and support anything that gives them power.

  10. Under-doglet has already said she supports BLM.

    Why doesn’t braindead Oberweis bring that up?

    Who’s running O’s campaign? Brady?!!!

  11. NICE GUYS FINISH LAST.

    The last thing we need in McHenry County is a fake nurse/ fake Girl Scout, who supports black lives matter.

    Oberweis, is still the better candidate.

    Besides, Ice cream is far better than Girl Scout cookies any day of the week

  12. AlabamaShake, we already have congresspeople based on population.

    There’s no urgent need to have 30 US Senators from California. 🤔😮

  13. Eddie, there are those who think true democracy is the form of government in this country or that it should be.

    Our founding fathers disagree with that, they feared a democracy and set up a republic as our form of government.

    Everyone always thinks of the three branches of government but it’s really 4 if you ask me.

    The 4th branch is the people.

    There are checks on the people’s power as well.

    The main one is the electoral college.

    We already got rid of the other main check, that was states selecting senators instead of popular vote.

    Our country was not meant to have 51% of the people be able to do whatever they want.

    It’s was designed to actually try and prevent the 51% from harming the other 49%.

    The democrats would toss this right out the window at the first opportunity.

  14. Neal, I agree.

    The 17th Amendment (1913) abolished states electing US Senators.

    Yes, “many” politicians say “We’re a democracy.” ☹️😮🤔

  15. Eddie – I didn’t bring up or argue for 30 Senators from CA.

  16. AlabamaShake, you said “Imagine California with 30 senators.” 😊

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