IL-14: Lauren Underwood Projected Winner by AP

Lauren Underwood
Jim Oberweis

At 2:10PM CST, the Associated Press called 14th District for Congresswoman Lauren Underwood

Final update 11/12/20:

Per this tweet from the Associated Press (AP), Congresswoman Lauren Underwood (D, IL-14) was declared the projected winner and will be reported as such by the mainstream media:

The IL-14 is the 424th U.S. House race (out of 435) the AP has called, or the defeated candidate conceded.

As reported on Tuesday on McHenry County Blog, Republican challenger Jim Oberweis’ campaign team will work with local election authorities to determine if all votes were cast by legal voters.

The county clerks have until November 24th to certify the races and issue the Official Canvass for their county. The Illinois State Board of Elections will certify the congressional race winners shortly afterward.

This is the final update of the IL-14 race now that the AP has declared a projected winner. No new vote-by-mail returns were posted by any of the seven county clerks, so the race was called with the 4,288 votes margin through yesterday (Nov 11).

Wednesday update:

Mid afternoon, the Will County clerk released post election night VBM ballots returns for the first time. Congresswoman Lauren Underwood netted 764 votes out of 2,910 ballots.

Tuesday updates:

Early Tuesday afternoon, the Kane County clerk released 21 VBM ballots netting Congresswoman Lauren Underwood 9 votes.

Mid afternoon, Lake County clerk released 4,061 VBM votes in the 14th district netting Underwood 1,507 votes.

McHenry County clerk released 4,135 votes in 14th district netting Underwood 833 votes.

DuPage County clerk released 50 votes in 14th district netting Underwood 28 votes.

Monday late-morning update:

The Kane County clerk released 31 additional votes in the 14th district posted late morning. Underwood netted 10 votes, and now leads with 1,147 votes.

Sunday Night Update:

Lake County Clerk Robin O’Connor (D) released 2nd set of post-election night vote-by-mail (VBM) returns Sunday night after 10PM CST.

Congresswoman Lauren Underwood netted 553 votes nearly doubling her lead over Jim Oberweis to 1,137 votes.

Neither the Associated Press or any mainstream media have called the 14th congressional district race. Here are the unofficial returns.

Unofficial returns taken directly from the county clerk websites of the 7 counties in the 14th congressional district.

Post-election night votes added:

  • 11/4 208 votes from Kane County
  • 11/4 299 votes from DuPage County
  • 11/5 688 votes from Kane County
  • 11/6 616 votes from Kane County
  • 11/6 168 votes from DuPage County
  • 11/7 3,000 votes from Lake County
  • 11/8 1,889 votes from Lake County
  • 11/9 31 votes from Kane County
  • 11/10 21 votes from Kane County
  • 11/10 4,615 votes from Lake County
  • 11/10 4,135 votes from McHenry County
  • 11/10 50 votes from DuPage County
  • 11/11 2,910 votes from Will County
  • 11/12 AP called the race with projected winner. Vote updates prior to canvassing complete
CandidateVOTESVOTE PCT.
Lauren Underwood  200,03750.5%
Jim Oberweis  195,74949.5%
TOTAL  395,786 

Notes: The seven county clerks within the 14th congressional district reported all vote-by-mail (VBM) ballots received and verified through Election Day.

Under Illinois law, VBM ballots can be received by the county clerks through Tuesday, November 17 for verification, including postmarked on or prior to November 3.

The county clerks will post the returns from VBM ballots at the discretion of their respective office. Thus far:

  • Lake County will post VBM returns on a set schedule, Tuesday, November 10 and 17 after 5PM CST.
  • McHenry County will post VBM returns on November 10 & 17
  • Will County will post VBM returns on November 17
  • Kendall and DeKalb counties to post VBM returns November 18

Additionally, all provisional and VBM ballots will be processed and either accepted or rejected.

Last day to cure a provisional or VBM ballot is Tuesday, November 17.

Other notes:

  • Jim Oberweis’ best county was McHenry County, which he won by nearly 8,000 votes. McHenry County cast the most ballots in IL-14 and key to him leading the race.
  • Lauren Underwood’s best county was her home county of Will, where she won by nearly 7,000 votes. Will County cast over 50% fewer ballots then McHenry County within IL-14.
  • County breakout:
    • Oberweis winning McHenry, DeKalb, Kendall
    • Underwood winning Kane, Will, DuPage, Lake
  • Jim Oberweis lost his home county of Kane by 2,345 votes, and Kane cast the second most ballots in the IL-14
  • The “blue wave” political columnist/blogger Jeff N. Ward said would not happen DID happen in Kane:
    • Democrats won 4 contested countywide races (states attorney, auditor, circuit court clerk)
    • Democrats flipped 1 single-member county board district, giving them 13-11 board member majority, with chairman’s race outstanding
    • The auditor-elect for Kane County, Penny Wegman, won as a Democrat and is the daughter of Republican Recorder Sandy Wegman, who won reelection to a 6th term and was the only Republican to win contested race countywide. That must be a first – mother-daughter both winning countywide offices in different political parties in the same election
  • DuPage County was a disaster for congressional Republican candidates.

County Breakout

CandidatesDeKalbDuPageKaneKendallLakeMcHenryWillTOTALS% Vote
Lauren Underwood             9,545             5,324           53,953           20,915           26,302           53,001           30,997     200,03750.5%
Jim Oberweis             9,867             3,215           51,433           20,988           26,078           60,110           24,058     195,74949.5%
TOTAL           19,412             8,539         105,388           41,903           52,380         113,238           55,095     395,786

McHenry County Blog will update unofficial returns counts as they are posted by the respective county clerks within IL-14.

Comments

IL-14: Lauren Underwood Projected Winner by AP — 261 Comments

  1. Some Guy, FYI, POLITICO has a lag. McHenry County Blog pulls unofficial returns directly from the 7 county clerks’ websites.

  2. As of right now, the election results on Google report 100% of the vote in. Final tally

    Milkman 50.1% 189,025
    Fake Nurse 49.9% 188,130

  3. Now she can join the squad and marry her sweetie before her term ends.

  4. NO ONE HAS CALLED THIS RACE FOR OBERWEIS

    All 7 county clerks counted the VBM ballots they had received and verified last night, but there are more than enough outstanding VBM ballots out that could help Underwood win.

    Ballots received by clerks by 11/17 and postmarked on or before 11/3, once verified, will be counted.

    No mainstream media has called race for Oberweis, while one online firm, Decision Desk HQ called race for Underwood though she trailed at the time.

  5. Still mailed in ballots that didn’t arrive on Election Day outstanding.

  6. Yeah. We aren’t going to hear about it one way or another for 2 more weeks. Even Jack Franks isn’t out yet.

  7. I wouldn’t mark this as an Oberweis victory just yet.

    Vote by mail is going to come in and I think they have up to two weeks to finalize the results of the election.

    Two tenths of a percent is not much of a lead.

    In 2018 there were a lot of races where Republicans were ahead in until mail in was counted and then they lost.

    Some of them, like Young Kim, were up by way more than 2/10ths of a percent and it still flipped.

  8. It is still to close to call that’s for sure but I’d still rather be ahead.

    Let’s also not forget that besides any VBM that didn’t arrive (and who in their right mind waited to the last minute) there will be a number of provisional ballots that will eventually be counted too.

    Those were cast on election day and will likely lean red.

  9. How is 100% of the vote in, if there are outstanding mailed and provisional votes not yet counted? 🙂

  10. Eddie, usually the metric is “100% of precincts counted” and the metric you cite is linked many times to “…of the vote”.

    Given the small margin, and thousands of VBM ballots out, Underwood could still pull this out.

    As stated elsewhere, there are just over 3,000 VBM ballots that have not been returned in Kane County, but that doesn’t tell which congressional district the VBM voter lives.

    Kane is divided between 4 congressional districts.

    As we forewarned for the presidency, going to have to wait this one out until 11/24.

  11. I suppose the fake nurse will soon be calling for an affirmative action handicap of 1500 votes.

  12. C’mon Lauren, take your signs down and go back to Maryland and the nightclub scene.

  13. There are lot of uncounted ballots out there.

    Kane County alone has reported that they have 10,000 uncounted ballots.

    I don’t think this race is over, and I think that there’s a decent chance that Lauren ends up winning. But right now it’s too close to call.

  14. AlabamaShake, a tweet from Jim Fuller of the Daily Herald said the number is now closer to 3,000, and 208 votes were added today in IL-14.

    Keep in mind, the county-count in Kane could be in 1 of 4 congressional districts.

    Don’t think Oberweis would have claimed victory unless the district-specific VBM outstanding count is much smaller.

  15. OK, Jim Fuller tweeted updated numbers earlier this afternoon with VBM outstanding ballot counts broken out by Democrat, Republican and non-partisan. “D” and “R” of registered voter from primary ballot cast back in March’s primary.

    Going by Fuller’s counts of outstanding VBM ballots, a total of 6,262 ballots hadn’t been counted as of early afternoon on Wednesday. “Out there” must mean not returned/verified/counted.

    11/4 mid afternoon, Kane County Clerk posted total of 481 additional Kane County ballots, 208 in IL-14 votes, bringing total of outstanding VBM ballots down to 5,781.

    This is guerilla math, and using my tracking of total ballots cast in Kane County (including Federal only).

    Hopefully, the clerk’s office will get back to posting daily metrics, so it’d be easier to track.

    Also wish the other counties would do the same.

  16. I would like to thank McHenry County Clerk Joe Tirio for running a clean and efficient election process.

    Especially considering that his predecessor needed additional high-compensation-package husband— and there was also a redundant high-compensation-package Recorder of Deeds— to run elections.

    Thanks Joe for being honest and diligent, and mindful of taxpayers’ burdens.

  17. It would be nice if Tirio reported how many uncounted/unreported ballots he has.

    It would also be nice if Tirio didn’t wait until the last day (rather than as counting happens) to report all late ballots.

  18. John – safe to back of the envelope assume that CD14 would be 35-40% of the ballots in Kane.

    If Underwood wins them 60-40 (my guess is that she may do better than that, who who know…), she’d gain about 300 votes.

    And that’s only in Kane.

    It’s gonna get interesting.

  19. AlabamaShake, given we’re talking Kane County unofficial returns, and the beauty their metrics are more robust, we can apply some additional logic.

    First, my guerilla math had a goof and I was off by 28 VBM ballots counted yesterday. I updated the numbers above.

    Kane County is divided between 4 different congressional districts: IL-06, IL-08, IL-11, IL-14

    Since Kane County unofficial returns also counts ballots cast, per race, in addition to the vote count, here are the metrics for ballots cast, including VBMs to-date:

    IL-06: 26.4 %
    IL-08: 11.3
    IL-11: 16.5
    IL-14: 45.7

    Of the 481 VBM ballot returns posted yesterday, 208 were applied to IL-14, so that percentage is 43.2%

    So, applying the 45.7% of ballots cast in Kane County portion of IL-14 to the 5,781 estimated VBM ballots outstanding, the highest number of VBM ballots for IL-14 is 2,645.

    We also have to remember, some of the VBM ballots outstanding WILL NOT BE COUNTED because they were not returned, they were returned but postmarked too late, they are disqualified due to failing signature-check, or they are successfully challenged.

    Rest assured, both campaigns will have watchers witnessing the VBM ballots counting at each of the 7 county clerks, or at least at the 5 larger ones (McHenry, Kane, Lake, DuPage, Kendall).

  20. It’s a straight up MELTDOWN on Twitter from Democrats.

    They are so sad right now.

    They really underestimated the milkman.

    You might find this interesting, John, but I have found already seen several lefties say she is down because she wasn’t radical enough and that they did not vote for her.

  21. “We also have to remember, some of the VBM ballots outstanding WILL NOT BE COUNTED because they were not returned”

    Also some of the people with outstanding VBM ballots may have also voted on election day.

    If they were unable to surrender the VBM ballot they would have been given a provisional ballot.

    That ballot will be held until the end of the two week period and then added to the the count if the mail ballot never arrives.

    I can personally attest that there are some of these out there too.

  22. Lets say that there are 1500 mail ballots in Kane, to account for drop off, disqualifications, etc.

    If I’m reading your numbers correctly, it looks to me like Lauren closed the gap by roughly 100 votes (with the 208 ballots added), so roughly 2:1 for Lauren.

    If there are 1500 ballots that go 2:1 for Lauren, Lauren closes the gap to 350 votes.

    And, again, that is just using Kane. Lauren is likely to win the VBM ballots everywhere.

    Again, I’m just doing back of the envelope math, and there are a lot of assumptions going into all of this. My point is to just continue to say that this is far from over.

  23. “You might find this interesting, John, but I have found already seen several lefties say she is down because she wasn’t radical enough and that they did not vote for her.”

    She isn’t anything enough.

    She’s a do-nothing.

    Alabama is being sensible today and is right.

    It’s far from over.

    And if we are seeing anything, Democrats are continuing to make both real and imaginary gains with VBM.

    Either way, they will count until they legally can’t anymore.

    They can make up any numbers that they want under the current circumstances and claim “covid awareness” for blue voters, among other things.

    I’ve seen that one parroted a lot on social media and expect to see it here for the local election as well.

    Democrats DO NOT want to lose more house seats and will stop at nothing to put a stop to those that were already lost!

    This is the only one that hasn’t yet been held in Illinois even though other close districts with <100% counts have already been declared blue and they were also close.

  24. Could that nurse get a job as a real nurse in a hospital?

    Not being a clerk at a desk in a hospital?

  25. Nobody can steal an election better democrats.

    Just look at Trump.

    We will see.

  26. The democrats are extra freaked out because they also look to lose more seats (not in IL) in the future, so expect them to try everything they got.

  27. Poor little fake nurse,

    Maybe se can get her BLM goons to threaten to torch Woodstock, McHenry & Crystal Lake if she doesn’t win.

  28. So if it shrinks by about 100 votes a day like it has the last two days,

    Underwood will take the lead in about a week.

    They have another 11 or 12 days to count ballots.

    Oberweis camp has got to be nervous.

    They’d be smart to get some observers so there aren’t funny ballots getting counted.

  29. Where is the GOP?

    These ballots should be impounded.

    You are being ripped off in broad daylight!

    Why isn’t Joe Tirio doing something except sucking his thumb?

  30. “So if it shrinks by about 100 votes a day like it has the last two days,

    Underwood will take the lead in about a week.”

    The numbnut Republicans in office are just going to act like it’s perfectly normal too. You’re expected to believe that this stuff is divided perfectly right down the middle. The other 10 remaining house seats are so close that it’s stupidly improbable and Democrats are pretending to be flustered about the potential of losing upward of 16 seats. Just like you are supposed to believe that it’s an accident that Georgia is 50/50 on the presidential election right now and that nothing nefarious has happened at all.

  31. ** These ballots should be impounded. … Why isn’t Joe Tirio doing something except sucking his thumb?**

    Why should the ballots be impounded?

    What exactly do you think Tirio should do?

  32. “What exactly is abnormal about it?”

    Alabama,

    In the event that there is an electoral collage stalemate that cannot be resolved by January, the House will be given authority to choose the next president based upon having the majority 26 delegates that would permit them to choose (not the same as house seats).

    This is how Thomas Jefferson was elected.

    The problem is that the Democrats will not have the House delegates necessary to appoint the next president.

    Do you see why they are so perturbed about not dominating in the house and losing upwards of 15-16 potential seats?

    Furthermore, it’s unlikely that they will take the Senate as well.

    The new laws about basic electoral college votes upon popular vote make it easier to contest in the event of a very small margin of difference.

    The electoral college would not be able to pick a clear 270 to win and this would drag out beyond the time that Trump and Pence would be removed from office.

    House seats would already be filled and Republicans would have the majority of 26 state delegates, and they get to pick the next president. Not you. Not me.

    Nancy Pelosi was so confident that she would be choosing the next president that it was widely publicized several months ago that she already had someone in mind for this circumstance.

    Imagine the shock when they discovered this week that it would not be the case at all.

    As you can see, it’s in the Republican best interest to not rock the boat.

    Why do you think that they are all silent right now? This is all political theater.

  33. Alright.

    We’ve time to see what happens.

    But I take it that you never bothered to Google what I talked about to check it yourself to see that Nancy Pelosi has claimed it several times, even as late as this week.

  34. Path to 270

    There is still a pathway to victory for President Trump and the outstanding ballot math to back it up.

    North Carolina is safely on board for President Trump.

    In Arizona, our data showed we would keep cutting into Dems lead and we have. President Trump is on pace to win Arizona.

    In the latest batch of votes tallied, President Trump received the share he needs to win the state.

    Many of the ballots that are outstanding we know are our Election Day voters.

    The calling of this race was way too early and are absolutely continuing to monitor Arizona and the developments on the ground there.

    Fox News and the AP should retract their call, even Nate Silver agrees.

    Not expecting a release of numbers until 10PM ET today.

    The Trump campaign has declared victory in Pennsylvania.

    The current outstanding margin in Pennsylvania is over 108,000 votes. While there are still outstanding ballots in Philadelphia and Montgomery County, votes in Trump areas including York and Allegheny still need to be counted.

    There are about 369,300 votes left to be counted.

    This morning, the Trump campaign won a massive legal victory in Pennsylvania. Appellate court in PA guarantees there will be eyes on all ballots being counted.

    In a huge victory for election integrity, the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania sided with the RNC and Trump campaign in the challenge to Secretary Boockvar’s unlawful deadline extension for absentee voters to provide missing proof of identification.

    The court has enforced the proper statutory deadline and ordered that those ballots be segregated and not counted.

    The American people deserve transparency and openness as votes are being counted and this legal victory will ensure that occurs.

    We still feel good about the eventual margin in Georgia.

    In Nevada, we can expect additional legal news today. the current margin is about 11,000 votes and there have been a number of reports of over fraud. We will ensure all legal votes are counted.

    We have filed for a recount in Wisconsin.

    We are committed to ensuring all legal votes in Michigan are counted.

    We have thousands of volunteer lawyers at the ready in these and other battleground states, and our efforts will continue until election results up and down the ticket are final.

    This fight is not over. President Trump will continue to fight for us, and we will continue to fight for him.

  35. Orville, that’s cute, but there is no way that Trump is winning PA (and the ballots that came in after e-day won’t even be relevant).

    A recount in WI – even according to Scott Walker – isn’t going to change the result.

    MI is also comfortably in for Biden.

    GA is crazy close, but if I was forced to choose I think that the data leans towards Biden.

    I think Biden holds on in AZ and ends up with a bigger lead in NV, but regardless of what happens in GA, AZ, and NV, they won’t really matter.

    There isn’t a path.

  36. **votes in Trump areas including York and Allegheny still need to be counted.**

    LOL – also just caught this. Biden is winning Allegheny 60-40. Clinton won it 58.5-41.5

  37. I’m not sure why I could call Van Jones a liar here.

    He’s saying true things.

    That doesn’t mean that is what is happening here.

    I’m really not sure what your point is.

    Trump very well may not give a concession speech.

    That doesn’t mean much of anything.

    Biden is going to win.

    There isn’t an electoral college stalemate.

    If the Republicans try to steal it by having red states not give Biden electoral college votes that he won, that will be incredibly f’d up.

    I don’t think that is going to happen.

  38. Does anyone happen to know if there are %counted disparities between areas?

    That is, are there more votes to be counted in IL14 from a particular area?

    Might be helpful to know.

  39. Cat is offensive, and has suggested that people be burned alive. A couple of observations

    1. Duncan McHenry/Cindy/Cat should be once again removed from the blog
    2. Once again an anonymous blogger is sooooo brave, I picture them bravely typing away threatening the world to a fight while watching each hour for reaction to their tripe.
    3. I am almost convinced it’s like a white guy about 65ish, works in real estate, had a couple of foreclosures, maybe used to work for/against the government.
    3. Lastly, we all know this is mentally defective person, why don’t we help them?

  40. Who is Cat?

    Cat Stevens?

    What is Watching blathering about?

    A stolen election?

  41. I actually thought Blago’s interview was interesting.

    Saw it earlier today.

    Isn’t if funny?

    We all probably miss him.

    I do!

  42. Watching is among the perpetually offended, apparently.

    Complaining about someone who is anonymous…

    But is anonymous.

    Oh, look!

    The old white guy trope.

    That’s not getting old at all.

    Run your own blog with your own rules.

    I’m sure people will be banned or blocked or registration would be required if it was determined necessary.

    I didn’t even see the comment but nanny here is clearly being an annoying nag and wants to put a stop to someone being bad by trying to say what the rules should be for everyone else.

    Annoying nags belong on Twitter where they censor dissenters for scary speech like: “There are fake ballots!”.

  43. If we’re reviving Salem Witch Trials, we must reinstate putting people into big boiling pots of hot water, like medieval Europe did. 👹

  44. I’m not advocating the revival of Salem Witch Trials and putting people in big pots of boiling water. ☹️😐

  45. The Watching diaper wearer needs to be banned.

    Some of the reasons:

    1.) He’s stupid

    2.) He cannot form coherent sentences

    3.) He’s a communist

  46. Has there EVER been an example of continued counting of ballots being an advantage to the Republican candidate?

    Why does it ALWAYS favor the democrat?

    If you are a JUDGE (at any level) reading this, you have an OBLIGATION to stop this.

    But judges are a disgrace – lady justice is a joke – our system is broken.

  47. In 1990, there was a one vote difference, between State Representative Penny Pullen (anti-abortion) and Rosemary Mulligan. Pullen won the coin toss (I think).

    In 1992, Mulligan won.

    Back then, Park Ridge and Des Plaines were Republican.

    🤔😐

  48. ** If you are a JUDGE (at any level) reading this, you have an OBLIGATION to stop this.**

    Haha – on what legal grounds?

    Do you know our state’s elections laws?

  49. Stick it, Watching. I am NOT any of those fools! I am the one and only Cindy. Always have been. Always will be. So shut the f up, you moron!

  50. ** Why does it ALWAYS favor the democrat?**

    Yea, it’s weird.

    Especially when we know that the Democrats pushed vote by mail and the President spent weeks bashing vote by mail.

    It’s truly shocking that we wouldn’t see batches of Republican friendly vote by mail ballots!

  51. I have a pallet of Milk Duds that are going to get shipped to whoever the loser of this race is.

    This is not a drill.

    I repeat, I have an entire PALLET of MILK DUDS that are going to get shipped to whoever the loser of this race is!

    Thank God for the stimulus check. 😀

  52. Watching You wrote –>

    “1. Duncan McHenry/Cindy/Cat should be once again removed from the blog”

    Duncan McHenry and Cindy are not the same people.

    That is a fact.

    Duncan McHenry has not been on the blog since 2016.

    Nice try though.

  53. Wow, DALA. Thank you! Who would’ve guessed that you would testify FOR me!

  54. I hope there are tribunals and executions after more fraud is discovered.

    https://www.kbtx.com/2020/11/06/limestone-county-social-worker-charged-with-134-felony-counts-involving-election-fraud/

    We don’t want to live in a banana republic, and people are going to have to pay the price for what they have done.

    https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/world/us-election-2020-michigan-officials-rectify-error-after-software-glitch-incorrectly-gave-6000-donald-trump-votes-to-joe-biden-6082151.html

    It is a fight against evil.

  55. “When we win, do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it’s funny.”

    They openly talk about rounding up people who disagree with them and putting them in camps and/or ruining their lives because they have different political ideas.

    How do you coexist with people like that? The answer is that you can not.

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324825062915084288
    https://twitter.com/EvanMcMullin/status/1324511000763101184
    https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1544437-twitter
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCDe7vdFfw
    https://www.patheos.com/blogs/markmeckler/2018/06/nancy-pelosi-maybe-there-will-be-uprisings-across-the-country/

  56. AlabamaShake, nationally, Democrats pushed vote-by-mail.

    But locally, particularly in McHenry County, Republicans pushed vote-by-mail, too.

    That could end up helping Oberweis in the end, since his strongest county is McHenry, and Lake County is his 2nd strongest county.

    We’ll know by Tuesday afternoon, when Lake County is expected to post its first post-election night VBM returns.

  57. Yea… but we’re not seeing that (the local push for VBM) in the data yet.

    I’d be shocked if Lauren didn’t makeup ground from both McHenry and Lake.

    Not sure if it will be enough (though I think Lauren will end up winning), but we’ll see.

  58. Alabama, you ‘think’ or you know Underpants will be victorious?

    Know bc you’re part of the communist cell in charge of insuring she ‘gets’ enough mystery votes to ‘win’.

  59. Correcting is only partially right. This whole escapade was PLANNED and it isn’t about any election. While you are consumed with the false paradigms the whole world is going literally to Hell. This was fixed before anyone even registered to go vote. Positive proof that they have been controlling all of this was in 2016 when all those criminals swept into the governor’s offices across the whole country. Are you people seriously not seeing through this subterfuge? If anything was real would Dickie Durbin be “elected” back into office? You are all so busy arguing against the left right crap that you are not even noticing ALL of your freedoms have been stripped from you and you are now living in a Communist country that wants you dead. Refuse to play their games. There are no nations. There is only evil and it’s encroaching wickedness. Pay them no heed. Get right with your Creator. He’s going to have to straighten out this wicked wicked world.

  60. Cindy is 100% right but only the weak-minded that see through broken one-color 3D glasses are going to get it.

    If you only see a blue filter through both eyes, you’ll be mislead.

    Likewise, the same goes for red. The truth is obfuscated and you need to start seeing with the magic glasses off to get that both red and blue were trying to keep you completely fooled the whole time and the entire thing was completely warped.

    That isn’t to say that you cannot support your president, country, or certain critical issues, but don’t be blind to the fact that misinformation and liars are there to keep you dumb and in control.

  61. **Cindy is 100% right but only the weak-minded that see through broken one-color 3D glasses are going to get it.**

    It is interesting, Some Guy.

    A while back, when you first started hanging out on this here blog, you were a mostly reasonable conservative.

    You were wrong most of the time, and never liked to admit it, but you could at least have a conversation without these crazy tinfoil conspiracy theories.

    Not sure what happened to you, but I really do hope that Cindy is willing to share some of her tin foil with you.

  62. **Know bc you’re part of the communist cell in charge of insuring she ‘gets’ enough mystery votes to ‘win’.**

    HAHAHAHA!

    Nope.

    No communist cell for me, though it sounds like a ton of fun.

    I simply can look at data and make reasonable predictions.

    I may be wrong.

    I may be right.

    But I know it is going to be close, and I think that Lauren Underwood is going to be able to make up the gap with the still uncounted/unreported votes.

  63. AlabamaDave doesn’t know the first thing about what “reasonably conservative” means.

    Furthermore, calling someone a “conspiracy theorist” is nothing more than an attempt to shut them down. Nobody cares anymore.

  64. “I may be wrong. I may be right. ”

    The only truthful thing to come out of your mouth today,

  65. Yea, see, Some Guy, I’m willing to admit when I don’t know exactly what is going to happen.

    I’m making a reasonable prediction based on data.

    But we’ll see what the final outcome is.

    But according to you and others though, I magically have some kind of communist cell magic power to see the future.

    Maybe that’s true too!

    I’ve gotta’ figure out how to tap into that.

    It is so ridiculous that you all are so incapable of having a reasonable discussion without absurd over the top conspiracy theories, childish name-calling, and constant false statements.

    It would also be helpful for many of you of you learned how elections and vote counting worked.

    Have a basic understanding of our election law.

    Learn what is allowed and what isn’t.

    Learn how ballots are verified.

    It would go a long way for you to better understand election outcomes.

  66. AlabamaShake, attempts to invalidate any argument that he doesn’t support.

    Don’t let him shut you down.

    Further, his biased, un-objective opinions don’t matter anymore.

    Now, everyone knows who he is and he is a big fat nothing in the scheme of things.

  67. Anything is a possibility.

    Anyone who is assuming that this is over right now doesn’t have any idea about election law.

    You claim to, but you are essentially paid to misinform people and deceive.

    Nobody should trust a single thing that you say.

    In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me that if you were even paid to hang around here and deceive “right wingers and conspiracy theorists” in order to get them to look the other way.

    Your self preservation interests are blatantly obvious and you are a paid liar and deceiver.

  68. **You claim to, but you are essentially paid to misinform people and deceive.**

    False — good effort though.

    Not only am I not “essentially” paid to misinform.

    I’m not paid to do so at all!

    But I sure wish someone was willing to pay me to hang out on blogs.

    **In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me that if you were even paid to hang around here and deceive “right wingers and conspiracy theorists” in order to get them to look the other way.**

    HAHA – that would mean that folks would think that you all matter in what happens.

    I’m just here for the fun of it.

    Do we want to get back to some substance or do you all want to keep obsessing about me?

    I prefer to live in much more comfortable places than in your heads.

  69. “Do we want to get back to some substance or do you all want to keep obsessing about me? I prefer to live in much more comfortable places than in your heads.”

    Your ego is much larger than you are.

  70. I take that as a, “No, I’m not willing to talk substance.”

    Cool cool.

  71. Sorry dude, but as a political consultant you are most certainly paid to lie and deceive.

    You’d throw anyone under the bus for a few scraps and are not trustworthy at all.

  72. Sorry dude, but I’ve not lied or deceived in any way here.

    Feel to point out where I have.

    I’ll wait.

  73. Nut job “Watching”, you claimed I’m “offensive” at 7:33pm on Nov. 6.

    Aside from the fact that you can’t count to four, I don’t believe you were ever appointed High Commissar to Determine Mental Fitness by anybody.

    Of course Sweet Kamala isn’t in yet to make that appointment.

    Should she do so, I have a .357 hollow point round I ‘d like to give you.

  74. Alabama Snake, how’s your alternative lifestyle going?

    Is Sager hosting a bottomless cry fest tonight?

    Give us a report of that if you’re going.

    We’d like to hear it.

    No pictures tho.

    I don’t wanna puke involuntarily.

  75. Sorry to disappoint you, but I’ve never met Sager.

    My alternative life style is going great.

    I’m going yardwork with my kids.

    How about you?

  76. I think Alabama is finally telling the truth. Not a liar or trying to deceive anyone. THEY REALLY ARE THAT STUPID!!!! You heard it from that jackass’ own mouth.

  77. DALA, thanks for the Lowitzki info.

    About the Alabama Snake.

    He’ll be on a database quite soon.

    Looks like from his website, he’s a real peach!

    Funny how he uses the child props which look like they’re nothing but weekend visitation children.

    Although the children are featured on his website, nothing about the kids’ mom(s) ….

    I guess somebody woke up and realized what a loser and Communist Lowitski really is.

    Since by his own website he’s heavily into LGBTQ ‘doings’, maybe mom came back from work early and found him in the sack with a same sex fellow, Who knows.

    Frome Alabama’s website:

    He has also played large roles leading and coordinating coalitions, including acting as the legislative chair of Illinois Unites for Marriage (the coalition for marriage equality that included LGBT, labor and community organizations), legislative chair of A Better Illinois (the Fair Tax campaign that included labor, community, and social service organizations), on the steering committee of the Responsible Budget Coalition, and as a lead with Raise Illinois (the minimum wage coalition of policy, labor, and community organizations).

  78. Sorry the Cheat Tax measure didn’t go through Alabama.

    Will you no be tarred a consultant-loser?

  79. “Sorry dude, but I’ve not lied or deceived in any way here.

    Feel to point out where I have.

    I’ll wait.”

    I’m trying not to go for a totally low blow, but your whole life is a lie.

    I could elaborate, but it would be really a kick in the jimmy so I’ll stop here.

    I don’t want to be totally nasty to one another so let’s just stop while we have some level of civility.

    I’m sure you’ll still claim I’m a conspiracy theorist for examining the possibility of an outcome even more unexpected than the normal perception.

    At the very least, we aren’t there yet.

    In the end, I’m not sure it matters as much as you think that it does.

    FYI: President Elect Mistress Kamala Harris has gender pronouns in her Twitter. You probably should add some too if you expect to fit in.

  80. Y’all are pieces of work.

    Keep making assumptions.

    Keep making this about me.

    Keep being wrong.

    And I’ll celebrate President-elect Biden, VP-elect Harris, and Congresswoman Underwood’s reelection.

  81. “And I’ll celebrate President-elect Biden, VP-elect Harris, and Congresswoman Underwood’s reelection.”

    Congrats!

  82. By Monday Oberwuss will be down 85 votes. Wed., down by 666.

    Thursday he concede and asks for Lauren’s autograph on a milk carton featuring the missing Biden.

  83. Eddie
    He/Him/Mr./Sir/Gentleman/
    Séeking British Knighthóod Status
    😂🤣🤓😁

  84. I see that the racism is getting even more blatant on this here blog.

    Good god…

  85. Alabama, kneel down at your BLM parties and punk out while you’re sky high.

  86. Like I predicted, the liberal communist marriage out of political convenience lasted less than Carmen Electra and Dennis Rodman.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-says-she-may-quit-politics-dems-blame-progressives-losses-2020-11

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/04/national-guard-called-into-portland-for-post-election-violence/

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/tb6tX4uzN8Lv/

    https://twitter.com/apexworldnews/status/1324436327962710016

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/26/joe-biden-refuses-get-woke-will-the-democratic-base-still-embrace-him-340753

    https://twitter.com/wahidsakakhan/status/1325156126560804864

    https://kdow.biz/content/all/sanders-supporter-with-american-flag-beaten-up-by-antifa

    I hope the normies have fun with Biden sending their kids to die in a war for international banksters and leftist purity spiralers trying to assassinate them for not wanting to abolish private property and release everybody from prison.

    Hey, at least you won’t have mean tweets from le orange man or a job!

  87. Don’t bounce Alabama.

    He’s annoying but I’d still stand for him to share his opinion when he’s not going full sh@*lib. He’s just looking for friends.

  88. About 25 years ago when I lived in Chicago, the friendly democrat precinct captain would set up shop in a local tavern and pay people for their absentee ballots.

    IIRC, the going rate was around $20 and enough free drinks to get a really good buzz on.

    I wonder what the going rate for a ballot is these days; I’m sure the price has gone up a bit with inflation.

    This widespread mail in voting must have increased business a great deal.

  89. Yesterday: John Lopez – “That could end up helping Oberweis in the end, since his strongest county is McHenry, and Lake County is his 2nd strongest county.”

    Today: 11/7 3000 votes from Lake County… LEAD CHANGE Lauren Underwood Up 584 Votes

  90. If “hate-based” crimes are so much worse than normal crimes, and are to be punished more serverely, then aren’t false accusations of hate-based crimes also much worse than normal false accusations, and shouldn’t they, too, be punished more severely?

    So Jussie Smollett, Kim Foxx’s little gay pal, needs a felony

  91. “If “hate-based” crimes are so much worse than normal crimes, and are to be punished more serverely, then aren’t false accusations of hate-based crimes also much worse than normal false accusations, and shouldn’t they, too, be punished more severely?

    So Jussie Smollett, Kim Foxx’s little gay pal, needs a felony”

    One of Biden’s day-1 action items is to reverse Trump’s EO on “critical race theory”.

    They need these things to keep people under zombie mind control so that they have more violent BLM thugs and the likes at their disposal. Same tactics that the Nazis used as well.

    Replace “Jews” and “Aryans” w/ “Whites” and “Black & Brown”.

    The whole point is to have ways to create division and make people hate one another.

  92. The bottom line is that the election went wrong for Trump because of stupidly following Kushner’s policies betraying white males –

    And that there was – as often happens – a gigantic amount of USA vote fraud, in this case rather egregiously by the Democrats in the so-called swing states.

    Even Biden supporters are expressing shame that they apparently ‘won’ in a way they themselves recognise as visibly corrupt

    What happened in 2016 was that the ‘surprising’ vote for Trump overwhelmed the also-large vote fraud back then, which was too small in scale for the unexpected Trump surge.

    This is also said of the 2016 UK Brexit vote … the fraud was insufficient to counter the surprise pro-Brexit wave

    The USA historically is a vote-fraud country, as for example in the 1960 election when mobsters in Chicago delivered the victory for the Kennedys … It is now on a larger scale, much more confirmed and known, by people worldwide as well.

    I’m sorta glad Biden ‘won’.

    He’ll be gone soon and the ugly face of the cultural and racial aliens will be breaking down everybody’s front door demanding their homes be given to them just like that fat trial lawyer found out in St.Louis.

    The white leadership will be targeted first and the bovine proves will have their beer,porn and TV to distract them that everything is back to abnormal.

    Then you’ll see an armed backlash against the Deep State and its Semitic elites.

    They made the
    Big mistake of not disarming the white populace first, before all their Covid nonsense and public school synthesis could harden.

  93. I definitely don’t come to this site for the political analysis of John Lopez.

    He called Trump and Milk Dud would win.

    So I’ve asked it many time before and Lopez refused to answer…… If God wanted Trump to win (this is an actual claim of his) then why did God want Trump and Milk Dud to lose?

    “God gave us Grace when Trump was elected.” –

    this is an actual belief held by the expert political commentator for this blog.

    I’m guessing I’ll get some response like…. I don’t know what God’s master plan is blah blah blah… but he was pretty sure that God put Trump in for the good of the country and world.

    So why did God say to Trump “YOU’RE FIRED!”

    Here’s my theory… God tested people like you and you failed.

    You failed His test.

    So that Jeff Ward guy was wrong too.

    Never heard of him until last week until he was touted as some guru of Illinois politics.

    He called Underwood would lose.

    Can’t believe it!

    His 200 Facebook followers must feel so let down.

    Now I can back to not caring about what he has to ever say.

  94. Just remember….. there will always be people like Prim to carry out orders from on high.

  95. Oh on, you are a shameless.

    You want to abase people and destroy Christianity.

    And you will be put down like a rabid, biting bat.

  96. Correcting on 11/05/2020 at 7:51 pm said:
    So if it shrinks by about 100 votes a day like it has the last two days,

    Underwood will take the lead in about a week.

    They have another 11 or 12 days to count ballots.

    Oberweis camp has got to be nervous.

    They’d be smart to get some observers so there aren’t funny ballots getting counted.

    ——————————————————————-

    UNDERWOOD IS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE!
    UNDERWOOD IS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE!!
    UNDERWOOD IS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE!!!
    She has already taken the lead.

    ——————————————————————-

    Bros, I am already writing the autopsy report.
    This is still a FANTASTIC showing for Republicans, but you have to think about what went wrong bros.

    ——————————————————————-
    Alexa, play “Almost Doesn’t Count” by Brandy.

  97. Surprise! Surprise! Who didn’t see this coming? They are still playing this stupid game.

  98. What happened to make republicans so stupid?

    The content and comments on this blog are disgusting.

    Be better.

  99. No matter how you voted, your vote counted…. The American people can have confidence that this election was fundamentally fair, [and] its integrity will be upheld… ”

    That quote is from former President George W. Bush.

    Today.

  100. Praying for Lauren from Will County.

    Looks like she’s on track to win!

  101. Upside?

    AOC vs. DNC: Ocasio-Cortez Threatens To Quit Politics, Slams “Hostile” Dems For Not Being Progressive Enough

  102. ” No matter how you voted, your vote counted…. The American people can have confidence that this election was fundamentally fair, [and] its integrity will be upheld… ”

    That quote is from former President George W. Bush.

    Today. ”

    Now the Democrats love Dubya.

    Just like they now love John McCain (after he died).

    Dubya was one of the worst presidents we’ve had in my lifetime.

    Right next to Obama.

    Can’t decide which was worse.

    Might not occur that they only like people who agree with them.

    Doesn’t matter if they do right.

  103. George W. Bush was a good president. 😁

    John McCain was well loved, before his death. 😁

  104. Really? The USA has had many elections. Why would God be involved with Donald Trump, Joe Biden, Lauren Underwood and Jim Oberweis? 🤔🔔

  105. The sheep will be herded into their killing paddocks.

    This is highway robbery in broad daylight.

    Will Milkdud fight or melt into a sweet mess?

  106. Gary, that’s off topic posting, but explains a lot of why McCain (son of Cain) was always a Deep State tool and Trump hater, just like Denny Hastert, Sen. Pell, Gov. Thompson (9-11 Commission hack), Bathhouse Barry Obama, etc.

    The MSM was complicit every time.

    Schanberg was a lib Pulitzer Prize winner and NYT toast of the town but became a non-person when he remained a true investigative reporter on Johnny McCain.

    My POW flag will never come down!

  107. So great watching Underwood’s lead grow!

    I’m praying that it holds. 🙏

    I really think it will!

  108. Gary Puckett, thanks. 😐

    CPTKangaroo, i don’t know.

    They’re Republicans, they must be ok. 😐

  109. Gotta stop believing this crap about good Republicans.

    Most of the party are just as corrupt as Democrats.

    All parasites looking into their best interests and not the best interest of the people.

    This election is going to make people realize this.

    Some people have even claimed that Republicans are no longer the real Republican party (standing by their platform) and that this election is going to crush them later if they do not support Trump.

    We already know that the Democratic party has gone; Pandering to degenerates and radicals, criminals, etc.

    We may not have this two party system in a few years.

    Might be for the better.

  110. CHEATERS!

    Disgusting… The blatenism they will stoop to know no bounds..

    Not My President !!!

  111. FYI the bipartistan groups and media have gone on record claiming that they want to crush “Trumpers”.

    It isn’t even about Trump.

    It’s a word magic to get people to to rage at the thought of breaking up the current made-up system of “red vs. blue”.

  112. “We may not have this two party system in a few years. Might be for the better.”

    This is a very likely outcome. The democrats have problems with lefties vs the moderates and the republicans have maga vs the rhinos.

  113. Can’t wait to see which race he’ll lose next!

    Will Milk Dud will run for Governor or Senate in 2022?

    Or will he just wait until January 2023 to announce his run for President in 2024?

  114. Some Guy said:

    “We already know that the Democratic party has gone; Pandering to degenerates and radicals, criminals, etc.”

    Also, what of the legacy of this Party. The Party of slavery that fought Republican President Abraham Lincoln’s efforts to free the slaves. The Party of Jim Crow. The Party of one of the most racist ever politicians, George Wallace.

    Just like the NFL Washington team will change its name, so should the Democrat Party change its name recognizing its sordid past. Not to mention what they did in the past four years to a duly elected president to stage a silent coup. But, a name change may not be enough considering the evil deeds of some of their politicians such as Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, Nadler, Feinstein, Harris, etc. Evil deeds such as during the Kavanaugh hearings, the phony Russia Collusion, the impeachment having zero basis, etc.

  115. The demise of Democratics and Republicans has been predicted for years, but people are still voting for one or the other. 😐

    BLM isn’t needed for hate and division. The USA has always been divided and full of hate, from all sides. ☹️

    The above is freewill, which can’t be stopped. ☹️

  116. another stolen election by the dumbs hey??

    At least MooMan has the money to fight dead voter ballots

  117. Leaving IL because the software and “late ballots “ from corrupt Dems.

    Done here.

    Going where my vote ( and all others ) are actually legally counted.

    Enjoy your overtaxed incomes folks.

  118. Even Biden supporters are now scrutinizing the data.

    https://twitter.com/zenxv/status/1325628105252286468

    They are finding all sorts of irregularities.

    This goes beyond just the 2020 presidential election.

    Kentucky GOP shown to have a 560 vote swap that was recorded on CNN last year as well, resulting in a loss for the Republican incumbent.

  119. 1,147 votes and counting.

    If John Lopez wanted to offer straight political analysis, he’d tell you how tough things look for the Milk Dud.

    He’d also explain to the commenters why the late arriving votes are coming in for Congresswoman Underwood at a 2-1 clip.

    Instead, he wants to wait.

    And that’s fine. BUT……

    Last weeks Lopez submitted a post, “IL-14: Simpler Reason Why Jim Oberweis on Threshold of Winning

    The subheading stated, “And of all people, AOC closer to the truth on Underwood seat about to be flipped

    http://mchenrycountyblog.com/2020/11/06/oberweis110620/

    LOL!

    He was not on the “threshold of winning” and Underwood’s seat is NOT about to be flipped.

    Now from Lopez it’s…. well lets just see what happens.

    What he should be saying is the mail in ballot trend is real and Underwood’s lead is growing and it will take an Act of God to get Oberweis over the top. I, for one, will not rule out an Act of God. Say a prayer for Jim.

  120. I guess that means that PinocchiOH agrees that Joe Biden isn’t President elect yet.

    Otherwise Milk Man won days ago.

  121. Some Guy –

    Biden is President elect and Underwood is on a clear path for reelection!

    Don’t follow your logic but I’m sure it makes sense in head!

  122. Biden isn’t President elect. They are still counting votes in at least 7 states. Just like with Milk Man and Fake Nurse.

    What don’t you understand about that?

  123. Just 7 states? Why aren’t they counting votes in the other 43 states, like, uh…. Illinois?

    You think they are not counting the Biden/Trump votes in Illinois but are counting the Underwood/Milk Dud votes.

    I don’t understand that.

    Explain it.

  124. That’s actually a good question.

    Why are some states “called” and others are not?

    I don’t dispute that at all.

    Also, some counties are faster than others.

    Interesting that mainstream media has not called any remaining states where Trump has a clear win in order to skew the perception of a loss.

    Even if the margins of a win for Trump are far greater than the states they’ve called for Biden.

    The point is you can’t call an election over until every legal vote is counted.

    Milk Man and Fake Nurse included.

  125. I think it’s too early to call Underwood.

    At the same time, any honest political analysis begins and ends with how she has a lead and the lead keeps expanding with every dump of mail in ballots.

    Those statements are not inconsistent.

    …..

    Every vote WILL be counted.

    You don’t need to call an election until every vote is counted.

    Those statements are not inconsistent.

  126. **That’s actually a good question. Why are some states “called” and others are not?**

    Do you really not know the answer to this?

  127. Edit:

    Every vote WILL be counted.

    You don’t need to wait until every single vote is counted to call an election.

    Those statements are not inconsistent.

  128. Edit:

    I think it’s too early to call Underwood.

    At the same time, any honest political analysis begins and ends with how she is a clear favorite because has a lead and the lead keeps expanding with every dump of mail in ballots.

    If you’re going to offer commentary last week about how the seat is “about to flip” and Milk Dud is on the “threshold of winning” then you now need to offer commentary about Underwood is on the threshold of winning.

    Those statements are not inconsistent.

    That’s my point.

  129. It’s becoming clear that they have something going on together.

    Like they are “partners”.

    Two peas in a pod that parrot the same things and never seem to think differently.

  130. Update: Not looking good for the Vote Fraud truthers.

    “Fox News just cut away from @PressSec, saying the network could not in good conscience continue to air her false claims, for which she has provided no supporting evidence.”

    https://twitter.com/AshleyRParker/status/1325917303591071745

    Wow.

    When Fox News is calling the press secretary a liar, it might be time to reevaluate your priors about believing Trump has any evidence of voter fraud.

    He doesn’t.

    If he had evidence he wouldn’t have sat on it for ***2 days*** while he golfed.

    But deep down you know that, didn’t you?

    You just really wished for it to be true.

  131. Nobody watches Fox News.

    What’s your point?

    Furthermore, all of the Trump supporters that did basically moved to Newsmax overnight.

  132. I think he’s talking about the video evidence of vote flipping.

  133. “Nobody watches Fox News. What’s your point?”

    Fox News carried the water for Trump for 5+ years now.

    Even longer since he launched his political career calling into Fox to say Obama is not an American.

    “Furthermore, all of the Trump supporters that did basically moved to Newsmax overnight.”

    Got to confirm those priors people!

    If you don’t like what the news said, flip the station to confirm priors.

    Go to someone else who will tell you what you want to hear.

    These Trumpers want someone to sell them some BS and they want to buy it.

    Sad but that’s what Trumpers do.

    Peddle and sell BS.

  134. Just so we’re clear, you think there was voter fraud but:

    1. Trump got a higher percentage of voters in Philadelphia this election than he won in 2016. How is that possible???

    2. The Dems rigged the reelection but forgot to rig it for the two Georgia senators. How is THAT possible???

    3. The Dems rigged the reelection but forgot to rig it in North Carolina for the Dems or the highly contested senate seat. How is THAT possible???

    4. The Dems rigged and allowed Dems to lose seats. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE???

    YOU PEOPLE ARE NUTS!

  135. It’s evident that Faux News is controlled opposition that wants to keep people fighting instead of seeing the truth.

    It was already predicted in the TIP simulations that Fox would do this to demoralize “The Trumpers”. It didn’t work.

  136. Keep people from seeing the truth… uh, yeah, Trump wants to keep us from seeing “the truth” too because he hasn’t provided any evidence for any of his claims.

  137. One thing we know for sure is all of this will be settled in court.

    If you are a democrat you really should be encouraging that.

    Either he has evidence or he doesn’t.

    If he does, you should be ashamed of the democratic party and it will be dealt with, if he doesn’t, well he had his day in court, looks foolish and the Biden administration gains credibility.

    So far the media wants to shut discussion down.

    That makes me highly suspicious since why would they want that when Trump coming up empty in court would actually would help Biden.

    Smells like they might be afraid of what we find out, but only time will tell.

    In other words it’s a freakin mess and don’t expect that to change any time soon.

  138. Neal –

    WTF.

    He’s the president.

    If he has something to show us, he has the bully pulpit.

    He can show us what he has.

    The media isn’t shutting the conversation down.

    They are saying show us something or we will move along because this is BS and you have nothing.

    Team Trump set up a hotline because THEY. HAVE. NOTHING. I

    t’s not that the media is afraid, it’s that Trump is as full of s*** as he’s always been.

    The time to put or or shut up passed a long time ago.

  139. Oh on, it’s called plausible deniability.

    I have sometimes joked with my friends that perhaps the best career move for an ambitious young politician would be to secretly commit some monstrous crime and then make sure that the hard evidence of his guilt ended up in the hands of certain powerful people, thereby assuring his rapid political rise.

    Just like Denny Hastert, Obama and Joe Biden did.

  140. The proper place to settle such things is a court room not a press conference.

    Would you go show off all your evidence in a legal case to the media before your court case is heard?

    It’s not up to the media to decide it is time to move on.

    If you are so sure they have nothing, then you should have no problems watching Trump make a fool of himself in court.

    That is unless you think maybe the democrats pulled some funny business.

  141. “Nobody” knew Hastert’s evil deeds, until victims spoke up. 😐

  142. Is Moo Child going to bellow and low while he’s led to the slaughtering pen?

  143. Just remember how the MSM anointed Gore President Elect too, for many weeks.

    Then he got nada.

  144. Ms. Trumpion, I should have been clearer.

    Hastert’s crimes against teenage males.

    Hastert wasn’t in politics, when he was a wrestling coach. ☹️☠️

  145. That’s true.

    The MSM let Gore go on disputing the election for 38 days without anything close to the criticism they are giving Trump.

    Instead all we heard about was divining voters intention by pregnant chads.

    Hillary, just two weeks ago was STILL calling 2016 illegitimate.

    We spent 4 years chasing Russians that didn’t exist trying to prove it.

    How quickly they try to shove things down the memory hole.

    The democrats have disputed two presidential elections in my lifetime.

    This is the first time I have seen a republican do it.

    Everyone just needs to calm down and let the courts sort this mess out.

  146. Most of the GOP is publicly advocating overthrowing the will of votes based on false conspiracy theories.

    America is so f****ed.

    Neal – it matters not that Trump will present no evidence in court.

    He lost and he sees people only as winners and losers.

    Losing the worst thing anyone can ever do. He will never admit he lost and 35% of Americans will believe anything he says.

    It’s up to the responsible people who know better to do something about this but they are scared of the bully.

    They are cowards.

    Trumpers are cult-like.

    The rest of the GOP is a bunch of scared wimps.

    George W Bush won by less in 2004. Does anyone remember that being a close election? Stop pretending this thing is close. It ain’t.

  147. Hillary can complain about 2016 forever.

    It’s done and over.

    And we aren’t a democracy, at least not federally. ☹️

    Algore and Hillary had opportunities to help dismantle the Electoral College, before and after their runs.

    They didn’t. ☹️

  148. “The proper place to settle such things is a court room not a press conference.”

    – This is probably the dumbest thing written in the 200 comments of this thread.

    You have to be really really really dumb if that’s an actual belief you hold.

  149. If you are right Oh, the best thing for a reasonable person to do is let him run through the legal process.

    If you want a country where most people accept the result of the election there is no other choice.

    If you try and rush to your victory lap, you are just causing more harm and division.

    Maybe that’s the point.

    We are getting a lot of mixed messages from the democrats.

    Biden is talking about healing the nation while AOC basically wants to document every Trump supporters Tweets so they can be held accountable.

    What’s that all about???

  150. Florida gave Bush exactly 271 electoral votes and the difference was like 500 ballots in question.

    And it was a real actual dispute.

    This BS is just… lets see if Trump can find anything weeks later and in multiple states.

    You people wonder why Trumpers get a rep for being dumb gullible rubes?

    Try to stop saying dumb s*** that makes you sound like dumb gullible rubes.

  151. Neal – if Trump never admits defeat will you admit this is harmful fo the country?

    Or will you say, that he’s entitled to his opinion and it’s fine if the president wants to delegitimize the election without evidence. because he’s never admitting he lost.

    It doesn’t matter if he has no evidence.

    In his mind, it’s better to weaken our country then have people see him as a loser.

  152. I find it to be hilarious that the people who parrot a narrative about “Democracy” are so afraid of checking for fraud.

    If it’s proven that there is no fraud, Trump supporters are not interested in denying the country the right to Kamala Harris through our Republic’s voting system that is constitutionally protected.

    You owe everyone that right and you are a wicked little creature if you try to take it away.

    The Russian Collusion nonsense went on for years. You people are freaking out about your faked election in just a matter of days and just want to spread doubt to demoralize people to bring them down to your level of being controlled, but it’s not going to work.

    It’s not about Trump but you don’t get it.

    You only can see through your lens of Trump Derangement Syndrome and behave like a good little robot.

    The Senate today said these very same things.

    Joe Biden simply has not won this election yet even though they tried to put on a show that most Americans still do not believe.

    Furthermore, if Biden and Harris believe so much in uniting the country, as they continue to claim since they were falsely elected by Fake News, they should be more than willing to prove that there is nothing to hide in an election that has several states with less than a 1% margin and an incomplete vote tally.

    That is, if they believe in the American people and not just their own self preservation.

  153. By the way.

    Someone seems to be getting a little cranky and needs a nappy time!

    Bringing the angry up a notch or two too much!

    NOT MY PRESIDENT!

  154. Oh,

    The democrats have spent the last 4 years claiming that Trump is an illegitimate president, so don’t give me the accept it and do what’s right for the country line.

    The way I see it, given the current situation the best thing to do is to let the legal process play out.

    That will make the election MORE legitimate and be better for the country.

    Trying to just move on is just the wrong look. It gives the impression that that something is being hidden.

    To answer your question, if Trump gets his fair chance to use the courts and legal process, and the outcome is Biden wins, and he refuses to accept that, it would be very bad for the country.

    I do believe he would actually would concede in this scenario.

    Like I said before, if you think he has nothing, what’s the harm at this point in letting him have his say.

    Either we uncover the greatest voter fraud case ever or he looks like a crybaby.

    It’s far worse to have half the country questioning the result.

  155. Some Guy –

    Didn’t you say Trump was going to present evidence today?

    so gullible. lol.

  156. “To answer your question, if Trump gets his fair chance to use the courts and legal process, and the outcome is Biden wins, and he refuses to accept that, it would be very bad for the country.”

    THIS IS WHAT IS GONG TO HAPPEN!

    I PROMISE YOU THIS IS HOW IT PLAYS OUT!

  157. We will see, I hope not.

    If he does I’ll publicly say he is wrong.

    That is of course if he gets to have his court cases and so on and I believe he will.

    To be honest that seems kinda like left wing fantasy.

    Trump all holed up in the white house and being removed by the military.

    Just not going to happen.

    Just like the maga crowd wants trump to come out with a press conference announcing his secret plan to catch the cheating and make a side show of it.

    Different sides but the same basic fantasy.

  158. He’s not getting removed by the military.

    Im not saying that at all.

    He’s leave without the use of force.

    But he’ll say Biden cheated, the election was illegitimate and a fraudulent election even if the courts don’t buy it and he presents no credible evidence.

    He’ll never admit he lost in a legitimate election.

    And my key point is this…. a baseless assertion that the election was fraudulent is a dangerous harmful thing for the outgoing President to say.

    And that 100% is going to happen.

  159. And my point is that it’s not baseless yet so we should withhold judgment until we have 100% of the information.

    And again I must point out that the democrats have been saying that 2016 was illegitimate for 4 years so they are also guilty of this.

    I do think the most likely scenario is that he comes up empty handed.

    At that point he should give a concession speech minus the accusations and rally the troops for the senate runoff.

  160. Trumpion makes some sense.

    Eddie, can you explain Hastert’s meteoric rise?

    He was longest serving Speaker, wasn’t he?

  161. Let’s extend the vote counting until the 4th of July, 2021.

    By that time Filthy Underpants should be ahead of Oberweis by over 600,000 votes.

    And she’ll do it all over again in ’22 when she runs for her third nonproductive term!

    Why are these County Clerks being complicit with outright election fraud?

    Have the been threatened?

    Bought off?

    Shooting up methamphetamines?

  162. “And my point is that it’s not baseless yet so we should withhold judgment until we have 100% of the information. And again I must point out that the democrats have been saying that 2016 was illegitimate for 4 years so they are also guilty of this.

    I do think the most likely scenario is that he comes up empty handed. At that point he should give a concession speech minus the accusations and rally the troops for the senate runoff.”

    I agree.

    I don’t understand why it’s that hard for people.

    To be honest, I don’t trust any of these high ranking politicians anyway, on either side.

    I’m not even still sure just how much of this isn’t political theater to keep sheeple in line, though the Trump Derangement Syndrome is irrational and stupid.

    People seem to forget that a lot of stuff about mind control has been declassified and is very real.

    MKUltra only ended in 1973.

    Social media might be the strongest form of mind control ever created.

  163. Longest serving Republican Speaker.

    And, like Mike Madigan, will not have a statue.

  164. Dante, I don’t know. Please tell me. 😁

    I mentioned the crime(s) that led to his downfall. ☹️

  165. It’s ALL theater. Every BIT of it! Planned precisely like it is unfolding. These fools are gonna loose their shit when it all flips back. THis is how the “civil war” starts.

  166. Ohon making predictions here.

    Didn’t Ohon predict a big blue wave?

  167. It is amusing to watch the Fox News now.

    That crowd (bred picked up on this) is mocking the “MSM” for being wrong about a blue wave.

    Ok, fine, except ****these very same people were confident and predicted that Trump would win a 2nd term.*****

    They all predicted it.

    But go ahead and make fun of getting “blue wave” wrong when you go the big prize so so so so wrong.

    So wrong Bred.

    Eat crow.

  168. I thought Trump would win and it would be similar to 2016.

    Regardless of the final result, that is a lot closer to what actually happened than what the MSM predicted.

    This election is definitely a blow for the left, who were drooling at the thought of taking the senate, picking up a dozen house seats and the electoral college would be 435-0.

    OK I exaggerated the last one, but I bet they had that fantasy too.

  169. The Electoral College has 538 members:

    435 House
    3 DC
    100 Senate

    Yah or No? 😁

  170. Yeah I realized after I clicked send.

    I still bet there was a leftie or two out there dreaming about that 538-0 victory Biden was heading for.

  171. It looks like people have gone through the NYT’s PA JSON data of the election and have found the changes that were shown real-time on CNN.

    They’ve now written programs to go through records for every state.

    Now it’s just a matter of time.

    They’ve got more evidence than they need.

    Wonder why CNN wanted to take their real-time tickers down?

    They were the ones who accidentally exposed the cheating.

    To put it in simple terms, nobody gets a 20k bump off of just 54 votes.

    But that is just the beginning.

    All of the “smart people” who are in disbelief are likely more than welcome to look at the NYT data and figure it out for themselves.

    Also, Pelosi won’t have enough votes to remain speaker.

    That might be the least of her problems after this.

  172. Did not make any predictions on this blog site. The main issue I mentioned a number of times is that Joe Robinette Biden is unfit for president, unfit for any public position except perhaps a precinct captain in Democrat Chicago. Don’t know why he is acting as president elect when he told us on tv a number of times that he was running for senate in 2020.

    Joe is a proven doofus by nature of his positions on important issues over his 47 years in elected office. He also has a record of being a plagiarist, an alleged (by his former Senate Aide) rapist, made numerous racist statements, showed signs of a mental disability and/or dementia/senility over the past 2 years. He has made numerous dumb/incoherent statements and/or has shown great difficulty in completing sentences in many of his appearances on tv. These are facts, not predictions.

  173. oh yes you did Bred.

    Yes you did.

    Many times over you explained why Biden wouldn’t win.

    Your run on sentences explaining why are legendary.

    Looking more and more like Trump will not concede graciously.

    What a disgrace.

    Biden has a bigger total in PA right now than Trump had in 2016 and the Biden lead is going to keep growing when they finish the count.

    People need to wake up and stop comparing Gore to Trump.

    Gore was down by 500 votes in a make or break state where he won the popular vote.

    There was a legitimate dispute about intent of voters with butterfly ballots and hanging chads.

    Trump is just a petulant child who can’t admit defeat.

  174. There is a big difference in Bush v Gore and the current situation.

    Gore was not making an accusation of fraud.

    It was a recount and we were trying to guess what people intended by how pregnant the chad was or something like that.

    No matter though, they both deserve to play through the process so that the whole country can see the truth.

    I wouldn’t trust anyone who doesn’t agree that the American people have a right to a free and fair and transparent election.

    If you are 100% sure Biden is on the up and up, you have nothing to worry about, he will still be present. Not going through the courts will just make things appear more suspicious.

  175. I meant to say president but the phone had other ideas.

    I guess it’s actually accurate, he will be present but Kamala will really be president.

  176. I remember “hanging chads”, but maybe the chads were pregnant. 😁😂🤣😝

  177. https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1326322985456832512

    Waiting for the mainstream media to dispute this.

    After all, it’s their publicly-available data that was utilized (the data that drives the website tickers).

    I’m sure that the politicians have some explaining to do.

    There will be lies.

    There are already people in the Twitter comments that are too dumb to analyze the data themselves and are disputing it without actually coming up with a good reason.

    That said, this is only reported data.

    E.g; the data that is intended to be fed to the media and the people watching it.

    It doesn’t reflect what’s on voting machines at all.

  178. At what point was the AP appointed to be the decider of all things elected?

    “The AP calls.. .”

    Who really gives a care what the AP thinks?

    The AP, the Associated Press, is an opinion group.

    At one time they were hard headed truth seekers.

    It seems that is ancient history.

    I Don’t Care What the AP thinks!

    I care what the electors think and how they vote.

    That is how our system of government is set up to work!

    When all of the legal votes are counted, then let us know what the results are!

  179. Point is: Mainstream media is lying and people want to cover it up.

    They are doing everything that they can to get people to shut up and take a loss, but they are not.

    Draw your own conclusions.

    The data that the mainstream media presented “the sheep” was analyzed and found to have substantial problems.

    The logs aren’t lying.

    These are the numbers that they used to display the tickers on the screen.

  180. Listen Up Cheaters, there should be NO CALL until the 17th as planned and reported over and over by the fake news media, #WLM

    So you will just have to wait and the checks and balances play out as they should here in the toilet bowl.. sorry BW, #Black privilage, you will just have to wait … like the rest of us.

    You all decided to make this a mess and chaos now you pay the price!

  181. Toilet Bowl – It’s not a mess and we aren’t paying any price.

    He can concede.

    He can send out statements telling everyone to wait.

    Does not matter.

    Underwood and her supporter are more than happy to sit back and watch the vote by mail get counted and see her run up the scoreboard on the Milk Dud.

  182. Milk Dud cannot fight these commies properly.

    I want to know why Joe Tirio did not have proper election judges and software independent testing.

    Didn’t he have the funds?

    My neighbor got 2 Vote by mail forms (Not applications) AND THOSE WERE NOT APPLIED FOR.

    Her dead husband only got one VBM, but he never of course applied either.

    Been dead 18 mos.

    Doesn’t the clerk check out the obituaries?

    Why can people who have no ID vote???

    This is totally disgusting.

    Why do illegal aliens get registered to vote when they get their driver’s license?

    More Corruption!!!

  183. At first it was hanging chads.

    Once it was clear that would not be enough votes for Gore they then moved on to trying to count ballots that had an indent but no hole all the way through it.

    That was the pregnant chad.

    So I have zero patience for the same people who brought us that mess and the Russian hoax trying to say Trump is wrong for wanting to make sure that the vote was fair.

  184. Neal said about Joseph Robinette Biden:

    “I guess it’s actually accurate, he will be present but Kamala will really be president.”

    It has long been known in U.S. politics that voters choose a presidential candidate from the top of the ticket. Namely Trump, Biden.

    IN THE EVENT that Biden actually wins per the Electoral College decision in December, what kind of mess did the doofus leave in his wake in the event he is unable to serve out his 4-year term?

    Harris is the most radical left wing Democrat in the U.S. Senate. She is not well liked and that was evident in the first two Democrat Primaries this year. Harris withdrew from the presidential primary race after the second Primary in New Hampshire in February after receiving a little over 100 votes out of a total of 298,000 votes cast.

    Her policies while in political office in California were disliked by Californians. She has shown a mean and vicious style of communication as was well documented in her nasty questioning of Supreme Court Justice nominee, Bret Kavanaugh.

    In the past two years, Biden has shown signs of mental instability, dementia or senility on numerous, numerous occasions. His family and handlers apparently have been well aware of his problems and had taken measures to limit his appearances in public during the election campaign to limit the damage of his image. He had not been very accessible to the media and the public and his handlers and family hid him in his home basement. This is in contrast to Trump who was very active as president and out in the public day after day.

    Biden was a doofus while a senator and vp and was part of 8 years of the worst ever presidential administration of the U.S., Barak Hussein Obama. He already has announced some crazy actions he will take if confirmed by the Electoral College and sworn into office. He and/or Kamala are absolute disasters for the future of the U.S. The answers this duo gave to questions during the 2019 Democrat Presidential Debates confirm their very bad impact on the direction of the U.S. if given leadership authority.

  185. In McHenry County, I am not aware that Vote by Mail ballots were mailed without an application having been filed.

    Would you please elaborate on this?

    “My neighbor got 2 Vote by mail forms (Not applications) AND THOSE WERE NOT APPLIED FOR.

    “Her dead husband only got one VBM…”

  186. Kamala is already bringing her husband into the administration.

    It was announced that he’s planning to quit the law firm work.

    Don’t be fooled that this is a Biden election at all.

  187. bred winner,

    It’s Barack, with a C.

    The presidential debates occurred in 2020, not 2019.

    😁

  188. Democratic Presidential Debates referred to in posted comment were held in 2019. These had the higher number of participants and with many crazy and reckless answers to questions. Recall goofballs Beto O’Rourke, Swalwell and DeBlasio.

  189. AP seems to be afraid to call a lot at this point.

  190. Well, Mr or Ms Byden, go ahead and turn on the record player at night for your kid(s) as moron Biden advises.

  191. Can he still do a recount or audit?

    I know some states have rules on how close it has to be — sometimes it has to be within half a point which Oberweis is not within.

  192. There are no automatic recounts under Illinois law.

    The candidate with the presumably lesser vote total may request a recount if he or she received at least 95% of the vote of the presumptive winning candidate.

    The recount must be requested within five days after the canvass.

    The requester pays for the recount.

  193. Congratulations to President Joe Biden, Congressman Sean Casten and Congresswoman Lauren Underwood. Four more years and two more years!!

  194. No, the mainstream media projects a winner, and those wins are projected through the Associated Press.

    A couple of internet boards, frankly glorified blogs, declared Underwood the winner last week, when she was behind in returns.

    Even Underwood didn’t recognize those early “calls”.

  195. Congratulations to Congresswoman Underwood!

    Is this the end of oberweis?

  196. The media does not determine election results.

    They can report whatever they want but it doesn’t make it factual.

    Dems lost some seats when their blue wave never materialized.

    This might be another loss after the votes are looked at more thoroughly.

    Let’s see what happens…

  197. Sane individual, the answer to your question, is no.

    I would not put it past Jim Oberweis, once he exhausts his legal options to challenge the integrity of all of the votes and ultimately concede, to run again in 2022, in spite of anything he may say once he does concede.

    Combination of many factors, including 2020 saw House Democrats lose significant ground across the country, the usual/normal backlash against a 1st term President at the mid-term, his financial resources, a new map and renewed vigor being able to point to the fact many wrote off his candidacy, only to see him take Lauren Underwood over a week after Election Day before the race was called, could bring Oberweis back to the ballot in a little over a year.

    And while the new map will play into every congressional candidate’s decision to run in 2022 or not, know one does not have to live in the district they are running to serve.

    Nothing short of his passing on, or him filing paperwork to become a legal resident of the state of Florida, means we’ll have to wait and see what Oberweis ultimately will do for 2022.

    DO NOT count him out.

  198. Here we go…. yes, we lost but don’t count him out next time!!!!

    LOL.

    We have no idea what the district will look like but one can presume the Illinois Dems will make her seat very safe.

    But one more huge congrats to her!

    She took over a ruby red seat in 2018.

    She held it 2 years later in a year that was not great for House Dems.

    Time to give her a safe seat and see what office she wants to pursue in the coming decade.

    But I’m confused, John Lopez?

    Was this a good result for Milk Dud?

    Was this a red wave election?

    Why couldn’t Milk Dud win back a safe red seat in a red wave election?

    Dud can say whatever he wants, but if I’m a GOP hopeful I hammer him for not winning in a “red wave election” that saw seats break right.

    I’d rather have someone else’s argument than Milk Dud’s argument in a primary.

  199. all that being said, it’s a very safe bet that Milk Dud runs and loses in another election. it’s what he does.

  200. Jeff Ward just did an open letter yesterday pleading with Oberweis NOT to come back and run, as Oberweis has not lost a primary since 2006.

    Whether he chooses to run again is his business, and given his name ID, you can’t count him out.

    There’s debate, with the usual mid-term backlash coming against Democrats, will that spill over into Illinois.

    The draft map (yes, back-of-envelope computer work by someone not involved w/ IL politics) keeps Oberweis in the 14th, but with McHenry County chopped up so he or anyone else cannot get the kind of returns in 2022 that Oberweis saw in 2020.

    If Underwood gets the bulk of the city of Aurora, plus the NIU portion of DeKalb County, that should more than make up for Underwood losing both Lake and Will counties in the new map.

    So 2022 primary could be 2020 primary all over again, lots of candidates and Oberweis name ID winning the primary to face Underwood again, this time, in a mid-term where Democrats will be expected to lose seats unlike this year, when Democrats were NOT supposed to lose seats.

  201. If the GOP controls the Senate, and I think they will 52-48 or 51-49, the Dems will be limited in what they can pass.

    I could see the “backlash-against-the-incumbent” be much smaller in 2022 because there won’t be “overreach” by the Dems.

    Dems usually don’t do well in off year elections.

    I think with all the organizing that has been done over the past 4 years, Dems will be in much better position to get out the vote in 2022.

    Lots of speculation about what will happen over the next 2 years.

    Let’s just enjoy this win for our Congresswoman.

  202. Thank you all for electing me, Sean Casten and Lauren Underwood. Dinah Shore kisses to you all.