First one from 2007, when the California Secretary of State allowed hackers to try to break into its state-certified machines.
Next a story from Inauguration Day, 2021, telling how suspected vote fraud by Diebold machines set Democrats into a tizzy in 2004.
At the time, a Congresswoman challenged the results:
The uproar led HBO to produce a video called “Hacking Democracy.”
It follows Seattle woman Bay Harris across the country trying to prove vote counting machines can be fixed.
A six-minute 2016 interview of Harris and Dr. Hugh Thompson can be found here. Thompson says without state or national standards that the same problem could still exist. Harris urges extensive documentation of the election ballot counting.
What Harris finds proves to my satisfaction that there was vote fraud in 2004.
“The outcome of an election could be fixed,” intones the narrator, “and no one ever know.”
The 43-second promo has computer expert Dr. Thompson saying, “You can essentially re-write history.”
Not just Democrats question machine accuracy in the HBO documentary.
“How do we know this is right?” ask Susan Bernecker, 1996 Republican candidate for Jefferson Parrish Council.
She went to check out the electronic machines and found when she punched her name her opponent’s name popped up on the screen telling whom she had voted for.
A similar problem was noted in Huntley while Mary McClellan was County Clerk…multiple times…with a touch screen voting machine.
Here is article one. Article two is here. People trying to vote for Trump saw Clinton’s name showed up. People trying to vote of Mike Walkup instead found a vote recorded for Jack Franks. (In another location this problem is addressed.)
Almost a decade later, Susan Pynchon, the Director of the Florida Fair Elections Coalition asks, “How can this be happening to our elections?”
Commenting on the video Salon.com wrote, “If you’re worried about the dangers of electronic voting, this documentary will blow your mind.”
Back to McHenry County.
The central counting machine went down and, well, you’ll have to read the Inauguration Day article to learn the results.
This ten-minute video, the beginning of the “Hacking Democracy” documentary relates the same problem (and others):
Here is the evidence of a Florida hack:
This information has not been banished from the internet.
And, the entire video seems only available for purchase.
The remedy to this is hand counting.
People were trying to accomplish this in McHenry County back in the punch card days.
However, in order to require it a given election would have to be very close or you would have to be able to present evidence of fraud to the court.
If you required a hand count on a random basis of certain precincts in every election, it would be too risky for a software company to try to tamper with their own software.
In this past election, the State Georgia just happened to be a state where the entire state used the same election software, in this case, supplied by Dominion.
Most other states allowed each county clerk to select their own preferred system so they used more than one company throughout the state.
As luck would have it, the Georgia election was close enough that a hand count was eventually performed for the entire state, which came in very close to the original machine count both in the election count and the previous machine recount.
The software executives would go to jail if they are caught.
Since they can’t know in advance which states or counties may do hand recounts, they can’t take the risk.
If there were automatic hand recounts done randomly after every election, you wouldn’t have a problem with machine vote rigging by software companies at least.
Hackers are going to be anonymous but if discrepancies are found in the randomly sampled precincts, the entire state would be required to do a hand recount.
An objection to doing this for punch cards was that there would be judgement calls as to whether and incompletely punched entry (hanging, dimpled, or pregnant chad) should be counted, plus chads could fall out when the cards were handled.
This is ostensibly why the Supreme Court intervened in Bush v Gore.
But with optical scanned ballots, that is no longer a problem in most instances.
That would solve the problem.
Short memories.
Thank you Cal for an excellent review of this continued problem…
Lou Dobbs has just been removed by Fox for his recent delving into the current 2020 fraudulence that he also revealed in the reference url link shown in your commentary…
Unfortunately, it seems that most of our elected officials of both major parties jointly participate in dishonest fraudulent voting practices or are donor captives who like things to continue just as they are.
Big money and their control of information conduits has to be overcome or we may never emerge.
”BecauseScience” certainly has a plausible procedure as a resolution If we are successful in accomplishing true freedom of speech
The fact that election fraud may have occurred in the past proves nothing about what happened in 2020.
Such past occurrences may, at most (given similar possibilities), indicate that such fraud is possible, but not that it occurred in the past presidential election.
So, given what has been put forth, should the possibility of election machine fraud be investigated as thoroughly as HBO did?
Cal. Even though I am confident that the 2020 election was not fraudulent, I would welcome a detailed and comprehensive study of all of these issues including computer software reliability, and mail in ballot procedures.
I think that mail in ballots are going to become the norm in the future so we need to have confidence in the procudures.
For one thing we need to allow the counting, but not tabulation, of the mail in ballots as they come in so there is no big delay in reporting those results.
Maybe require that they be received several days before the close of the election period so there is time to do that.
Election day should be moved to a Saturday or be made a mandatory national holiday.
Also, such a study should take up voter suppression such as requiring photo ID’s which discriminates against poor and urban residents who don’t have cars, and closing of polling places in certain communities or moving them at the last minute.
A lot of people looked at the Florida elections in 2000 and all reached the same conclusion, which is that Bush narrowly won.
re ID.
Can one get a Covid-19 shot without an ID?
I am sure that people who don’t have photo ID’s will be able to be vaccinated.
Because science is wrong again.
Must have ID for Walgreen’s and CVS, NW Hosp. (McHenry)
“BecuseScience” and other doubters of fraudulence really should view the complete presentation
https://michaeljlindell.com/
for corroborated information…
This is a scientific view expressed in detail for all to understand.
I believe the present ID requirement is in place because of the limited availability of vaccine, with the result that certain targeted recipients (who must present ID) are given priority.
This is the result of the atrociously bungled response of the U.S. to COVID-19.
Once a sufficient supply of vaccine is available there would be little or no reason to impose an ID requirement.
At that point we’re talking solely about a public health, not an identity, issue.
Someone without an ID can be infected and infect others.
Loonboy Innocent ape forgets that DNA is collected too on the test kits…..
ID required for test.
MsTrumpion
Here is what I was responding to.
“Can one get a Covid-19 shot without an ID?”
Not a test, a vaccine shot.
The only reason an ID might be required for testing is to match up the test results with the right person and for billing purposes.
And according to reports, COVID-19 tests aren’t being used to collect DNA.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/10/fact-check-covid-19-tests-not-used-compile-collect-dna/3884206001/