McHenry County Security Guard Resigns Upon Seeing Rainbow Flag

Tuesday, the McHenry County Board passed a resolution designating June “Pride Month” and flying a rainbow flag.

Rainbow flag at County Administrative Building.

Upon seeing it, a well-respected, long-time private security guard tendered his resignation.

The following reply was received when I emailed him asking what he did for McHenry County:

That is an interesting question given recent events. 

On Wednesday afternoon upon arriving at the McHenry County Administration Building my attention was directed to the “Rainbow Flag” which had been installed directly underneath the Illinois State Flag at the main entrance of the building. 

My personal faith was deeply offended by the display of this symbol of the GLBTV movement on public property.  

Although I knew there would be consequences for me personally and that my gesture would more than likely be an exercise in futility, I decided that I would resign my position rather than work in the shadow of the “Rainbow Flag.” 

Among other duties, private Security Guards have been tasked to protect McHenry County Board members from local citizens. Here IMRF officials are searched for weapons before attending the March 17, 2016, McHenry County Board meeting.

Certainly there are many people in the GLBTV community who will be offended by my action, but this is not an indictment of their lifestyle. 

What people choose to do and what lifestyle they choose to embrace is not my concern and I wish them no ill will, however promoting that lifestyle on public property is quite another matter. 

The McHenry County Board made their choice to issue a proclamation and allow the “Rainbow Flag” to be displayed at the Administration Building and under our system of government that is within their authority.

Although the company I work for (I am a contractor who was assigned to work at the McHenry County Administrative Building) was not pleased with my action, they elected not to accept my resignation and have offered me another assignment (with a long commute) for the time being. 

I will miss a great many of the good people at the Administration Building and value their friendship, but Rubicon has been crossed and bridge has been burned behind me.  

I’m just an average person without power, wealth or influence, but despite my numerous shortcomings and personal flaws I strive to do what I feel is right in the eyes of God.

When our Government chooses to pander to and promote the agenda of a small minority with callous disregard for the beliefs of the majority of its citizens we all need to speak up.


Comments

McHenry County Security Guard Resigns Upon Seeing Rainbow Flag — 76 Comments

  1. Thanks for being honest about why you resigned.

    I respect you and wish you well in your future endeavors.

    I, like many others are tired off things like this being thrown at us and told ” that’s the way it’s going to be” Government is really going down a slippery slope but our only recourse is at the ballot box.

  2. The hats of the ‘GOD fearing conservative patriots’ of McHenry County are off to you Mr. Boehmke.

    This courageous action of yours goes way beyond anything most people would undertake.

    If our elected officials had half your courage that satanic rag would not be waving over our County building.

  3. Very well stated points by the security guard, especially:

    “What people choose to do and what lifestyle they choose to embrace is not my concern and I wish them no ill will, however promoting that lifestyle on public property is quite another matter.

    When our Government chooses to pander to and promote the agenda of a small minority with callous disregard for the beliefs of the majority of its citizens we all need to speak up.”

    Totally agree with the guard.

    The question of the legality of putting up this flag on public property should go to the courts, maybe even getting to the Supreme Court.

    Allowing that flag on public property, and excluding other flags or symbols, shows an endorsement of a particular lifestyle by government.

    It is not the place of government to endorse a lifestyle.

    Not that devout and practicing Catholics would want to advertise or flaunt their religion and lifestyle, but what IF “some” group of Catholics were obstinate and insisted that some symbol or flag endorsing Christianity be flown on flag poles at all government buildings in every State of the U.S.?

    Would the courts allow that or ban it?

    What would the mostly left wing and corrupt distrustful media say about that?

  4. Republican (if you can even call them that) board members beware- we will vote you out in your next election.

    Why doesn’t anyone have any balls anymore.

    Continually kowtowing to the leftist agenda instead of standing up for what is right.

  5. Cal- how about reaching out to the board members to get an on the record explanation to about their vote on this?

  6. I ride donkey.

    Im offended the LGBTQ community does not have a Donkey letter.

    Once you do donkey you never go back!

    I demand a donkey flag for a month over the admin building.

    I also demand donkey sex pride month!

  7. Has anyone asked Nick Provenzano for his opinion about this?

  8. I would like to know the Name of the person who first suggested this offensive flag..

    then I would like to know the names of all others who okayed it…

    decisions like this have consequences and if these people are proud of what they have done they should step forward and be recognized …..

    we the people deserve to know

  9. I agree that promoting specific lifestyles on public property should be avoided.

    I take it they too want to see all instances of the Ten Commandments and other religious symbols removed from public property, or anything else promoting any type of lifestyle whatsoever?

    If not, good riddance and it’s great to be done with another hypocrite.

  10. To add to what bill matteson is saying…

    Did this go through committee and if so which one?

    Or was it Buehler who put this on the agenda by himself?

    What was the process that got this resolution placed on the agenda in the first place?

    Who insisted on voice vote for it?

  11. hey because science…..still choking and laughing at that one…..

  12. A hero.

    That man should be our Sheriff.

    Prim is patsy for a group of militant lesbian deputies.

    They get away with all kinds of things.

    When checked, they scream, SCREAM, discrimination.

    They love to give tickets to people who have the Christian fish logo on their car.

  13. This guy SHOULD run for office, like Doctor Who said, and a high one at that (not just county board or city council).

    I’m serious.

    We need people who have the courage of conviction. \

    This person quit his job which means he’s losing money, and by expressing his disapproval for the “LGBTQIA” flag being flown he opened himself up to attacks from the gay mafia, but he doesn’t care about any of that.

    He did the right thing even if it made his life more difficult.

    He doesn’t gain anything and arguably loses a lot by doing this, but he did it anyway because he has principles!

    He is an inspiration.

    I have always admired people who were willing to personally suffer for a greater cause.
    <3

    If he does run for something he is guaranteed to get a ton of support.

    Many people will support him, and not the weaselly paid political consultant class like Collin Corbett (who so many people around here, especially Pat Kenneally, like to pay).

    I'm talking about real Americans who help each other out, real Americans who have a moral compass and common sense.

  14. Just another case of the McHenry County board jumping on the woke train !

    There should only be one flag flying, and that should be the American Flag !!

    I always thought the flag represented Americans, all Americans…….doesn’t the LGBTQ people consider themselves Americans?

    Shame on the County board, no backbones to stand up to the woke left !

    You will be replaced……Happy Trails To You All

    Congratulations to the Security guard !

    Someone please take that Rainbow flag down now….

  15. Modern Americans prove more and more everyday that they are cowardly and lazy.

    To be clear, this nonsense was proclaimed last year under Franks (big surprise).

    The county board approved it again this year because they didn’t want to be called bigots/homophobes etc.

    Well guess what?

    The democrats aren’t suddenly going to stop negatively and falsely labeling anyone with an ‘R’ next to their name because that’s all they’ve got.

    The county board members got it wrong on this!

    How about a Constitutional Flag?

    It seems as though the county board needs reminding as to what they’re there for.

    Pandering to the 6 virtual signaling democrats on the board is not their job, neither is pandering to a lifestyle choice or sexual preference.

    The can of snakes the board has opened up is going to bite the whole county in the backside.

    Mr Phil Boehmke has shown courage and conviction and gets my respect just as NFL player Buffalo Bills’ Cole Beasley who made clear his Pro-freedom position to the NFL in regards to their new vaccine protocol.

    He said he’d rather give up playing than get the experimental COVID shots’.

    I think they should realize they made a mistake, call a special meeting and get this corrected swiftly before that can of snakes bursts open and hurts the taxpayers of this county!

  16. Vincent is right about how GOPers won’t be given a free pass.

    They’ll still be hated.

    Not one Lib will thank you, they’ll still hate you, and conservatives won’t be happy.

    This was a dumb move.

    Didn’t know that about Cole Beasley and the experimental and dangerous VAX.

    Thanks for sharing.

    I always liked watching him play, but it’s good to know he knows what’s up…

  17. Boo-Hoo

    You won’t be missed.

    What’s next?

    No Christmas trees?

  18. For reference only, I am a straight person.

    While I don’t discriminate against others for their choices or lifestyle, and I recognize that gay people are born that way.

    I think that a person’s sex life is a very personal thing.

    I disagree with anyone being hateful because of this governmental fumble.

    Use the legal channels to change what you don’t like.

    It wasn’t the gay community who did this.

    If they want to celebrate who they are, that’s great, but I agree that a flag on a public building is odd and out of place.

    It also opens the door to place many more flags of all orientations.

    Perhaps just one flag, the American flag should be flown here.

    I agree with another comment that it represents ALL Americans.

  19. I wonder what Jesus would do?

    Seems like a lot of hate in some of these answers.

    I am a straight Christian and all I ever saw emphasized in the Bible was love and acceptance.

    I have seen too much hate and damage over this issue.

  20. I give this man my heartfelt support in doing what he did.

    That flag should NOT be displayed on a Government building.

    It shows this board has no respect for the majority of people.

  21. Notice how these people just have weird and extremely unconvincing arguments about hypothetical “hypocrisy” and “Jesus” (lacking scriptural references in doing so).

    Nobody is actually arguing why this is a good thing or how the Bible endorses this.

    They just attack you for being against it and cast aspersions on your character.

    They’ll just imply you aren’t a good Christian (even though most of the people who make these arguments are not Christians) or accuse you of being a “hypocrite” if you are against this.

    hey can’t actually explain why flying the rainbow flag on government property is a good thing.

    You have to pay attention to the rhetorical tricks used by Democrats and communists on this blog.

    They are very predictable, not original and not clever!

    ———————

    Tony, I appreciate your comment but it sounds like you might not fully understand what’s going on in this country and how big of a threat it is.

    They don’t want one flag.

    That’s not the point.

    It’s all about doing things that offend conservatives, Christians, whites, males, and heterosexuals.

    As soon as you understand that there is a war on people like that, everything starts to make more sense.

    No need to be confused about why things are getting so crazy.

    It’s not random.

    It’s a deliberate assault on certain groups of people who they deem has having power and privilege.

    The point is not about “unity” the point is about dividing and conquering the country.

    This is all born from radical ideology.

    You’re going to be hearing things straight out of Pol Pot from CNN in the near future.

    College professors already talk about how they want to kill white people.

  22. Kind of recall that someone in the community college in McHenry County had proposed putting a political BLM flag in front of the main building there.

    Believe that saner voices prevailed in the college and the flag was not put up.

  23. Thank you for taking your stand and having the courage to do so.

  24. ** You’re going to be hearing things straight out of Pol Pot from CNN in the near future.**

    You say crap like this, and want to be taken seriously?!

  25. Yes, that’s right, Shake.

    Moreover, I don’t really care if people take me seriously — least of all people like you who are evil liars.

    If you showed people from ten years ago what America looks like now, they would be horrified.

    Things WILL get worse.

    Propaganda WILL get worse.

    And you’re one of the propagandists, Shake.

    You are taking a big gamble, my dude.

    If things don’t go your way, it’s going to be nasty for you.

    You should really try to get right with the people and get right with God before it’s too late…

    Some of us accept things might not go well for us, but we are willing to speak truth to power.

    Some of the people here have gone to jail or have lost income or personal relationships for what they believe.

    I bet that is not true for you.

    You are a sort of go along get along guy. We all see it.

    You just repeat the dominant narrative, Shake.

    Worse, you pretend to be some kind of fact checker when we know you are a partisan hack.

    So what are you resisting?

    Nothing.

    Nothing except decency.

    Nothing except humanity.

    You aren’t on the good side.

    You’re a phony and a bad person.

    Happy Father’s Day anyway.

  26. You proved my point in your comment, Shake.

    You found the sentence you think is the wackiest and you attacked that. I’m familiar with your rhetoric.

    You’re a trickster.

    Readers of this blog need to watch out for tricks, deceptions, and logical fallacies from people like Shake.

    Those people (people like Shake) do not have YOUR best interests in mind.

    They are not good people.

    I get along just fine with everybody believe it or not.

    USA was a lot more united before tricksters like Shake started trying to rip it apart at its seams. I will admit that unfortunately they have been fairly successful.

  27. Alabama is a fool to think Pol Pot is NOT in charge of this wicked world. The subversion of ALL good and the raising of EVERYTHING evil is already here. Alabama loves the Baphomet world we now have to exist in.
    Bring out the inverted crazies and let the real people stay home. You have to be dumb as a bag of hammers to NOT see what is going on.
    https://www.rt.com/usa/527073-evanston-juneteenth-cancel-independence/

  28. There is no pride in dumpster pumping. Time to stop the lying and accept reality.

  29. “I wonder what Jesus would do?

    Seems like a lot of hate in some of these answers.

    I am a straight Christian and all I ever saw emphasized in the Bible was love and acceptance.

    I have seen too much hate and damage over this issue.”

    Lisa, It’s not Christian to lie to others by accepting perversion.

    It is wrong to hate, but don’t confuse the two.

    If you believe that lack of acceptance is hate, then you’ve let yourself be deceived ant that’s the whole point.

  30. ** Some of the people here have gone to jail or have lost income or personal relationships for what they believe.**

    Like who?

    I’m legit curious who here has gone to jail for their beliefs.

    ** I bet that is not true for you.**

    Oh, thanks for proving, again, you know nothing about me.

    It’s true I haven’t been to jail.

    But it’s absolutely false that I haven’t lost income or relationships because I’ve been willing to stand up for what I believe.

    But I’m absolutely devastated to know that you think I’m not on the good side.

    The guy who spouts racism, anti-Semitism, and homophobic comments all the time thinks I’m on the wrong side.

    Whatever will I do?!

    And you and Cindy can believe that a man that has been dead for almost 25 years is charge of the world’s.

    ** If things don’t go your way, it’s going to be nasty for you.**

    I love these absurd threats.

    They’re quite cute.

    **You should really try to get right with the people and get right with God before it’s too late…**

    Oh, I’m very comfortable with who I’m “right” with.

    Thanks for the concern though – it’s much appreciated.

  31. I agree that you should not start putting yourselves in these predicaments.

    Why?

    Nobody cared that you didn’t have that flag.

    What’s next?

    A black lives matters flag on June 19th?

    You should not be voicing your opinions on public property.

    Not everyone agrees with this.

    I agree with the person who said, we are all Americans.

    That flag should cover it all.

  32. So when is the Polygamy, Beastiality and Pedo flags gonna be flying?

    Or the Pothead flag, after all pot is legal now?

    Or the Hoarders flag, the Overeaters flag, the drunkards flag?

    Why not the 7 deadly sins all-in-one flag?

    OR How about a heterosexual flag?

    Now I think since you’ve made this support of a lifestyle precedence, you’ll have to consider that or be sued.

  33. HAPPY FATHERS’ DAY!
    You’re here because you’re Dad wasn’t gay!

    NO LIFESTYLE CHOICE FLAGS ON GOVT PROPERTY! No Gay, No Hetero flags etc.

  34. The sorry point to this is the Left has won the war of language.

    They take advantage of good hearted normal people who don’t discriminate or hate but put YOU on the defensive so you have to support their perverted choices or else!

    The US flag stands for all and the extra flag should go!

    The Left will be coming for Religion and your Children next if you don’t call them out on it when you have the opportunity.

    This guard had it right and chose the path to show it.

  35. Jesus, if he ever existed at all, was very possibly homosexual.

    (1) He never married which was unheard of for a male in that part of the world at that time.

    (2) His ideas, “turn the other cheek,” “do onto others as you would have them do unto you,” etc. were decidedly “feminine” compared to the previous Judeaic ideas expressed in the Old Testament of “eye for an eye”.

    (3) There are no condemnations of homosexuality in the New Testament as compared to the Old Testament.

  36. I just think the only flags should be the federal and then the state flag on any public property. Nothing else. Otherwise, where does preference end?

  37. Evil and mental illness.

    Not EVERY taxpayer condones this insanity.

    Keep it off taxpayer funded properties.

    Don’t need or want to know who you have sex with.

  38. Jason Collins was born Gay, but became Straight for a hot woman.

    They almost married, until he missed being Gay.
    😂🤣😮

  39. Yes Cal. There is no contemporary historical evidence that Jesus of Nazareth was a real person as opposed to a combination of mythologies from various traditions in the Middle East that pre dated that period. Everything that supposedly happened to Jesus happened to various mythological beings or persons in other mythologies that were prevalent in the general area for centuries.

    However, as Christopher Hitchens pointed out, if Jesus was not based on an an historical figure, there woudld have been no need for a tortuous and ahistorical story about his parents traveling to Bethlehem for a non existent “census”, Bethlehem being the “city of David” and the Messiah prophecy having said that the Messiah would be born to the line of David in the City of David.

    So if there was no historical Jesus, why not just say that he was from Bethlehem to begin with and skip all the Nazarene stuff?

    So I will grant that.

    However, that still leaves the question of why the physical laws of the entire vast universe would be suspended in one little place on one little planet on behalf of one little life form some 13.7 Billion years after the universe was born out of the Big Bang with all of the physical laws that we now have.

    It makes no sense whatsoever unless you are an illiterate sheep herder 2000 years ago with no knowlege of science who believes in magical stories and explanations for everything.

    So I think that perhaps Jesus was someone who preached a radical new notion of love and compassion rather than the harsh retributive narrative of the Hebrews and who was executed after he trashed the gift shops at the Temple.

    Then all the other stuff was grafted onto the story to sell it to a superstitious population.

    It was also combined with the idea that the personality does not die with the body, which is not found in the Old Testament, and which people then and today long to hear, although Jesus never really emphasized that and only spoke about it cryptically.

    Its a funny thing about telling people what they want to hear.

    They want to hear it.

    So the nascent Christian church very wisely focused on the immortality thing.

    Very good salesmanship which obviously worked spectacularly.

    And so now here we are with a knowlege of science that is not consistent with the Biblical stories, but if we discard the Biblical stories we also perhaps have to discard belief in the continuation of the human personality after the inevitable death of the body and brain. Or at least some think that.

    This then creates tremendous angst which different people try to resolve in different ways. Some discard all religion, some embrace other religions which don’t suffer as much from this inconsistency such as Hinduism or Buddhism, and some cling more tightly to the religion in which they happened to have been raised and which still permeates the societies in which they live.

    Which brings us to the gay thing.

    Jesus never said anything about homosexuality.

    But nevertheless the Christian church has harped on it for centuries.

    This leads to situations like Nick Provenzano, who, prior to being caught with his shirt off in a parked car on a cool night in October with a barely legal young man that he met through Grinder, was spouting all kinds of homophobic rhetoric and condemning Cathy Schultz for giving out marriage licenses to same sex couples after the US Supreme Court said she had to.

    He must have been terribly conflicted all of his life. I truly feel very sorry for him and hope that he is finding ways to come to terms with who he really is which is a perfectly fine thing to be.

    Same with this guard. He has bought the religious rhetoric probably because to reject it, even partially, means to him that maybe his personality, the thing he thinks is himself that resides someplace behind his eyeballs and between his ears, doesn’t last forever.

    That’s hard to face, and may or may not be the case.

    So that’s why the flag.

    It’s for the Nick Provenzano’s of the world.

    Bless you Nick.

  40. Citizens of McHenry County can comment to the McHenry County Board Committee of the Whole regarding the “flag” of many colors recently put up. Item 3 on their agenda is Public Comment.

    They next meet on June 22 at 1 PM at the Holiday Inn of Crystal Lake.

    Perhaps some Christian Citizens of this County can appear, comment and ask and/or demand that the Christian Flag be flown on flag poles of government buildings in McHenry County. Would guess that at least a simple majority of County Citizens profess to be Christians.

  41. Not ever going to read a treatise by someone so dumb as to have a name “Because..lah blah” that would denounce The Creator for their false faith in Satan and his works.

  42. Because science has lost all credibility questioning whetherJesus existed.

    Hostile Jew and Roman sources confirm His existence beyond question.

    Because science is another flake.

  43. @ Horace.

    Those other sources were dated several decades after the fact and are based on hearsay, which is to say a lot of campfire stories that had been passed down for at least of couple of generations.

    There is no contemporaneous source that mentions anything about Jesus despite the fact that the Romans were very scrupulous record keepers.

    However, as I mentioned in the previous post, I will agree, based on the fact that it was felt necessary to manufacture a story to get him to be born in Behlehem rather than Nazareth, that there may have been an actual historical person.

    However, he did not walk on water feed a whole bunch of people with one fish, rise from the dead or have any special knowlege about any sort of hereafter (which is not to say there isn’t one).

    On the other side, there was similar prophet with a similar sounding name about a century earlier who was from Nazareth and preached similar doctrines.

    But he was, nevertheless a seminal figure, much like Abraham, Hillel, Buddha, Lao Tze, and Mohammed and others who, at least initially, advanced the cause love and compassion even if it was corrupted by others later who burned people at the stake for questioning anything.

    As for Cindy, there is no Satan.

    However, there may be space aliens so you should keep your tin foil handy.

  44. BecauseScience said: “Jesus never said anything about homosexuality.”

    That’s not correct.

    He spoke against sexual immorality and outright claimed very specifically that a man and woman shall marry and become become one flesh

    What do you need?

    “Though shalt not dumpster pump”?

    Sexual immorality is not just homosexuality.

    Out of wedlock sex between men and women is all the same, though some will attempt to tell you otherwise.

    If you accept one, you generally accept the other.

    Still, expecting that the Bible has an example of every possible situation is asking a lot.

    If you knew right, and did what’s right, you’d also know what is wrong.

  45. Because says there may be space aliens.

    There are at least 100 billion stars in our Milky Way Galaxy which is just an average size galaxy. With latest Hubble images, there are estimated to be about 2 trillion galaxies in the “observable” Universe, each of which have billions of stars also.

    If intelligent beings from within our Galaxy, or other galaxies, did they solve time/space travel to travel faster than light? A side issue – Have they implemented policies for diversity, inclusion and equity?

    On the other hand, does only Earth of a mediocre galaxy of 2 trillion galaxies been accorded/blessed with intelligent(?) beings in the entire universe?

  46. bred: There a LOT of stars out there both in our galaxy and in others.

    Most have planets.

    A good percentage of those which have planets will have some in a habitable zone for carbon based life as we know it.

    So it is highly likely that some will have life and that that life will have “found a way” to develop intelligence.

    Intelligence is advantageous from an evolutionary standpoint because organisms that are more intelligent are more able to adjust to changes in their environments.

    So once you have life, you tend to evolve intelligence given enough time and stable enough conditions.

    So I would say that it is highly likely that intelligent life capable of eventually developing space travel exists somewhere besides on Earth.

    The only real question it seems to me is can they get here in a reasonable period of time given the distances.

    However, such intelligences may be several MILLION years ahead of us as our sun is not of the first generation of stars to develop after the Big Bang, so they may very well have developed methods to travel faster than light, such as bending space/time, using wormholes or something.

    So distance might not really be much of a factor.

    So given this, how likely is that some invisible magical being that “created” the universe would be hanging around with us in the galatic boonies micromanaging things and listening to our thoughts?

    Let alone sending some type of “son” down to our insignificant speck of dust and suspending the laws of the Universe so he can do stuff to impress us?

    Not very likely I would say.

    And not very likely that he/she/it/whatever, cares one whit about who is sticking what bodily appendage in what bodily orifices of our respective puny bodies.

    Or flying what kinds of flags.

    Get a life people.

  47. So, Because, what is all of this about. How to explain an infinite universe OR not infinite. If not infinite, what is beyond and enclosing? Or about multi universes? If multi, how many? Billions, trillions and what is beyond? Not too many people think about this. Maybe should to understand how insignificant the earth, Milky Way, beyond really is.

  48. So, what about some in Chicago area who pray to God that Bears beat Packers? Does he or she or it have more important matters to work on in the universe or multi universes rather than the Packers/Bears games?

  49. God definitely does not want the Packers to win, which proves there is no God.

  50. So, if God does not want the Packers to beat the Bears, why don’t the Bears have a winning record against the Packers? God should have her or his way, right?

  51. Bred winner, that was not his quote.

    Not sure where that came from.

    The County will not tolerate racism from an outside contractor.

    The security guard was only at the administration building for two weeks.

    He can spread his hate somewhere else now.

  52. Good for this guy.

    Any so-called Republican County Board member that did not speak out and fight this is an absolute disgrace and a coward.

  53. If a fraction of the effort here went into discussing your own owner-operated inter-networking infrastructure and publishing platforms… These issues never going to stop, there always going to be deranged people on the fringes, wrecking all sorts of havoc. Are you going to spend your life preaching to the choir?

    “When you debate the obvious, you both lose”.

    Just look at how much time and effort you spent on debating the obvious. So, what is the result? Did it make a difference? Did is solve anything? Or, you lost some time, you lost some opportunity?

    Creating owner-operated networks is the only solution: where you have a platform where you debate issues once – then you accept it, document it, and you move on to the next. You never debate the same issue twice: you just point at the work you did, and let the OPPOSITION debate, waste time and resources.

    Creating the owner-operated technological infrastructure is action, it is going to result in your own network you can connect to the network of those who agree.

    You supposed to debate only those who are CREDIBLE. People taking ABOUT the owner-operated network are not credible. People posting FROM their own owner-operated networks are credible, they have a skin in the game, they put their money where their mouth is.

    “The Facts are with those who learn to read, not with those who write” – I wrote these down on a dozen places, a hundred times.

    I cannot seem to find an audience able to read.

  54. So, what are you going to do when a Muslim moves into town, bring a thousand other Muslims with him, builds a minaret, and 5 times a day for hours and hours you hear the screeching of their priests from loud-speakers.

    If you HAD your owner-operated civil disobedience network you get on it, and in a day you have the majority of the town passing the city ordinance that their priests must do that INSIDE, without disturbing the peace. In a week you are able to start the audit to find out how did the Muslims got in town, and managed to build that minaret. You are able to pass the law to put the minaret under 24 / 7 video surveillance, to see who is frequenting the minaret.

    “Islam is evidently an adversary to Western Civilization”. You do the same with Scientologist, you do the same with Commuists, ANTIFA, BLM for different reasons. BECAUSE you have done your homework, you have debated and published the facts. Anyone complains must accept it or move on.

    You use Social Media for entertainment – you use the civil disobedience network to bring and maintain real change. One town, one county, one state at a time. You want your country back?

    Build the civil disobedience network.

  55. Very few understands why and how global social media gets corrupted, but here is a short explanation.

    When I am asking you to build your own owner-operated network you reply – “I have no idea how to do that, I am going to hire someone”. If this was only you, for your local business it would be OK – but guess what, there are tens and hundreds of millions are going to do the same.

    Congratulation, by demand you just created a corporation flush with cash, and the corporation is thinking about how they can lock the hundred of millions in for a cash-cow. BLEXIT, WalkAWAY, even the most “noble-cause” organizations are on the same path, nothing is going to save them. Money, Power Corrupts, and a market of this size is money, power.

    Some things you need to build for yourself, some things are too vital to source it out, to trust it to anyone else.

    Think of the Civil Disobedience Network as the Public Broadcast System, the Emergency Alert System, the CB Radio, the HAM Radio – pieces of technologies old as dirt. Did you, would you discuss French Cousin on Emergency Broadcast Systems? So why would you not consider the Civil Disobedience Network the latest and the the best yet, of the same kind of technology.

    Building a tiny data center for the township going to cost a few hundred thousand – and that’s not the FIRST thing you build. You build the nodes first, which only costs a few hundred a year. By the time you built the nodes you are able to force the local government, the city council to do as you demand or else. This is simple – not easy, but its simple.

    By the time you built both – you provide a truly independent alternative to Big Tech. You have a platform which cannot be censored or shut down – yet its never going to become that hundred-million user market where only a few privileged has a voice. Most importantly, your voice is going to be heard where it matters.

    You can still come here, go on Facebook – the civil disobedience network is not competing in the same class.

    All you can do is build it or ignore it. The debate is already over, it is needed more than ever before.

    Build it or ignore it, hmm…

  56. So when was the last time you debated this issue – to be able to point to a publication platform and say – “this is no longer discussed, the US shall exists even if Israel is destroyed. The Jews and Islam must solve their problems or kill each other. There is nothing we can do from our end”.

    Every time these politicians (including Trump) come to us saying “Israel is our most important ally” tell them: “Israel is out of our sphere of influence, and we are not going to champion something we cannot possibly control”.

    Create the Civil Disobedience Network, and publish this. Stop debating the obvious.

  57. @ Cindy. Those are all Old Testament sources.

    My point was that there is nothing in the New Tesatament condemning homosexuality.

    Discouragement of homosexuality has its roots in hunter gatherer societies where people lived in very small groups, there was high infant and childhood mortality, and adults rarely lived past the age of 30 primarily because of tooth decay and resultant infections.

    Also prior to the domestication of animals, women had to breast feed for 21/2 years which prevented them from having babies less than about 4 years apart.

    So with 50% infant/childhood mortality, and reproductive years being limited to maybe around 18 at best, you are limited to 2 to 3 children on average per female who make it. Some of those would also die in adulthood before being able to produce replacements.

    So it was difficult to breed enough offspring who lived to reproductive age to just keep up the tribe at the same size.

    Therefore if you had some members who were not able to reproduce because they were attracted only to members of their own sex, it would decrease the overall reproductive rate of the tribe and lead eventually to it’s demise.

    Homosexuality therefore had to be discouraged.

    The Old Testament’s proscription on homosexuality is a hold over from this earlier period.

    I think it may be significant however that there are really no similar references in the New Testament.

    Then there is the question of why anyone should care what the Bible says about anything as it is clearly wrong about the Creation story.

    The earth was not created in an Abra Cadabra Moment 6000 years ago with all of the plants and animals in the same form they are in today.

    That just didn’t happen and it can be proven conclusively.

    So if the first sentence of the first paragraph of the first book of the Bible is totally wrong, why should anything after that be believed?

    That, I would propose, is the central problem that Christianity faces today and why it is losing ground everywhere in the world including the US.

  58. BecauseScience

    Faith is following Jesus.

    By the time God sent us Jesus, people have failed returning to the Grace of God no matter what God have tried – dogma, ceremonies, religion.

    Jesus asks so little of us: “believe in me”.

    Yet, most people cannot even manage that much.

    Christianity is not losing ground.

    Christianity is transforming, evolving, it always did.

    Gail and I we do not have a “church” – our last church went “woke” so we left.

    There are many Christians here in Illinois and everywhere else who probably did the same.

    Instead of listening to a pastor I train myself to start all my chores dedicating it to Jesus, as all glory belongs to God, and Jesus is going to protect my work from corruption.

    I suspect there is a lot of confusion about Faith, and all I write next is pure speculation on my part.

    Faith cannot be “institutionalized” into religion, church, dogma, ceremonies.

    You may struggle with you intellect, but if you are too arrogant to “believe” – well, its your choice.

    Acknowledging God, maintaining your faith in Jesus is not to God’s benefit, it is to your benefit.

    Jesus is your only Hope to return to the Grace of God.

    As far as the Creation.. God could change that in an instant and you would not know the difference.

    God could change that and you still would not care.

    Away from the Grace of God nothing is real, everything is an illusion.

    We were created in the image of God, but its a mistake to think that away from the Grace of God we still “look the part”.

    Jesus had to take a human form, and that’s your clue that we are just human animals.

    Life on this planet evolved, and intelligence is needed to conceive Faith and Hope.

    Who says that losing the Grace of God was not resulted in God creating the human animal?

    Put your mind at ease, love Jesus with all your heart, and keep your Faith, hang onto Hope.

  59. Well hope Mr smug and sanctimonious enjoys his long commute to work, and he does not find anything offensive about his next place of employment.

    Being gay is NOT a “lifestyle.”

    They are no different than straight people, they should not be defined by who they love.

    If we all look around long enough we will find something to “offend” us…most of us just ignore it and go on with our lives.

  60. Will Mchenry county fly the black lives matter flag when they demand it be done as well? Don’t doubt it.

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