Found this sign aimed at the Crystal Lake Grade School District on Broadway near the Dole Mansion:
“District 47: Make Masks Optional. Our Kids, Our Choice.”
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Message of the Day – A Sign — 54 Comments
And it’s still there?
I give it 24 hours or until nightfall.
How about a sign that says: “Get vaccinated you Moron!”
“The crisis: a massive new surge of COVID-19, a surge almost entirely among the unvaccinated and centered in states and communities where leaders have continued to stoke contempt for the safety recommendations of pandemic experts.
The hot new cultural take: think pieces about whether or not Americans deserve to be angry at fellow Americans who, through their own behavior, turned what looked to be a major victory against the pandemic into a new surge unlike any of the others, one disproportionately targeting young children, featuring a new variant that has now evaded our spring and summer attempts to end the pandemic through vaccine-based herd immunity.”
Hmm, Strange, Comrade Fauci dictated along with Lunch Bucket Joe, that you would be safe once vaccinated.
However, many of the vile regressives much prefer you do as they do.
Or else.
Because, well, you know, they know what’s best for all of us.
It’s much easier to steal another mans fish rather than having to learn how to fish oneself.
Teh Democratic Mantra.
That, and “its for the children.”
The Silver Lining in all of this is that there will be fewer Republican voters come 2022 and the average IQ of the American public may go up a few points.
Better news BecauseScience that come 2023 Fauci worshippers who now have had twenty Covid boosters Jabs have all become cast members on the “Walking Dead” and are able to appear without costume or makeup.
Perhaps one should scroll to the previous post regarding “Gubment” employees and the State of Illinois as one of the highest ranking.
Do tell, how would all those “essential” (quotes used loosely) lackees get paid if it were not for those “deplorable” Republican, dare I say, Capitalists?
Ya know, the ones who actually work and pay their salaries.
Here, I will help you with the appropriate democratic response.
“If Republicans leave the State, we will just hire more Democrats for “Gubment” positions, thus creating more jos (jobs).
Needless to say, Economics never suited them well.
Too funny. “20 Boosters.”
Again, if you have taken the cocktail, as per comrade Fauci, you are then totally safe.
Why so worried about those who choose not too?
Why is it that all the Democratic responses and theories always have to do with control and reaching around to your wallet?
Quick, any word on the unvaxed illegals that Lunch Bucket Joe is letting in by the Tens of Thousands by plane and bus?
Ya know, the same illegals he is quoted as saying a couple of weeks ago, he intends on “streamlining” their immigration.
I am sure it’s beause of his “compassion” for humanity rather than the thousands of additional votes.
Quick, look at the goose.
These are popping up EVERYWHERE and I for one am glad to see it.
Parents deserve the CHOICE to make this decision on behalf of their own children, not the dist, and certainly not the govt.
If you are worried about getting it yourself get a vax, and wear a mask yourself.
Children globally are the LEAST affected age group to both get infected and have any seriously health issues from it.
Asymptomatic still has not been proven as a form of transmission.
Healthy kids should not be wearing masks.
“Children accounted for 15% of reported COVID-19 cases in the week leading up to Aug. 5.”
See below for the source.
Masks protect others as well as the wearer.
It’s not about personal rights, it’s about protecting society in general.
That applies especially to children who are at risk of painful “long Covid” symptoms that will haunt them for their entire lives.
Data from the American Academy of Pediatrics.
“As of August 5, nearly 4.3 million children have tested positive for COVID-19 since the onset of the pandemic. Almost 94,000 cases were added the past week, a continuing substantial increase. After declining in early summer, child cases have steadily increased since the beginning of July.”
It would be very useful and helpful if all the “patriots” would ban together to fight and finally defeat a common foe threatening the country before it escalates to a more deadly variant this Fall and Winter.
Hmm, now that is strange.
Was it not Lord Fauci who said month’s ago that the masks did little to nothing?
Are we citing sources now?
Let’s do it then.
I can cite all day.
Jacobs, J. L. et al. (2009) “Use of surgical face masks to reduce the incidence of the common cold among health care workers in Japan: A randomized controlled trial,” American Journal of Infection Control, Volume 37, Issue 5, 417 – 419. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19216002
N95-masked health-care workers (HCW) were significantly more likely to experience headaches.
Face mask use in HCW was not demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds.
None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.
Blacks are the least likely to get vaccinated.
Your narrative doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.
Apparantly, the word “patriot” is used loosely and only when fitting the narrative.
I digress.
The one and the same source cited from the American Academy of Pediatrics who profess to wanting children be masked indefinately.
The one and the same who recieve M M M M Millions in grant monies from the “Gubment.”
If one wants to heed the ramblings of one individual over the consensus of an organization of highly-respected medical professionals, so be it.
One phrase that works well is “Consider the source.”
A dead giveaway is usually the use of absolutes, e.g., “forever.”
Masking “forever” is nonsensical on its face.
Based on that latest response, one could surmise you did not fare well on the debate team nor advance logic in any college setting.
Keep trying, you may get it one day.
GET THE TRUMP VACCINE PATRIOTS!
Al Z, the town fool!
For those that slept threw the worst performance of science and health policy institutions in human history.
There is a surprising amount of science in marketing and a surprising amount of marketing in science.
Anti-vaxxers who are election conspirators, like this guy, have quickly grouped themselves as fringe members of society.
Their voices uplifted only by the other ignoramuses that faintly support them, their passions ignited only by their egos and emotions overwhelming any otherwise rational thought.
You’ve got to feel bad for people who live their lives like this.
They’ve struggled all their lives because they’ve never been winners in anyone else’s eyes except those they’ve managed to manipulate.
One positive aspect about it is that a lot of them are old and probably won’t be around much longer!
Sometimes that makes me smile.
Let’s start with Al Z.
Might I remind you that we fought your lack of tax assessment prowess with facts and logic… and WON.
Perhaps the details aren’t really your thing.
Math isn’t.
Ethics sure as hell escaped you.
Why not leave science alone?
Let’s finish with ‘Because Science’ who also needs some help with the facts.
The human immune system is far superior to the currently promoted coronavirus therapuetic.
Those that allow themselves to be experimented on will likely find that their reaction to the live virus is less than desirable IF they encounter said live virus in combination with any other viral element that sufficienly taxes their immune system.
In other words, I don’t believe you’ll get your wish.
I suspect it could be quite the opposite – that’s what previous animal studies and some current human examples would suggest, such as in Israel and Boston.
Why?
That’s the way coronaviruses and experiemental drugs have historically worked out.
You know… because “science”.
By the way, DJ nailed it!
Al, didn’t you run for an election and like 90 percent voted against you?
Yes BecauseScience you are right he got that out in warp speed
Two more indisputable facts.
(1) The anti-vax, anti-mask Governor of Texas is now pleading for out-of-state medical professionals to come help his over-run state.
How about only anti-vax, anti-mask medical professionals can respond?
(2) The anti-vax, anti-mask state of Mississippi is requesting the Navy hospital ship Comfort to save its overloaded healthcare system.
Seems like using federal funds doing that would no different than “…who recieve M M M M Millions in grant monies from the “Gubment.”
Here’s an easy and fair national solution.
Nobody is required to get vaccinated or wear masks.
However, if (not when) they get sick and go the hospital, they’re refused treatment because it’s the hospital’s “right” to refuse service.
There’s a Unmask Our Kids Rally in Crystal Lake on Saturday noon-3pm at Main St and 14
Well, Al… who is ultimately liable for the injury and death caused by Kung Flu?
Let’s see:
USA funds Fauci @ the NIH
NIH gives grant money to Wuhan
Obama moved Chapel Hill CV research to Wuhan
Wuhan did gain of function research on CV’s
Said research created CV-19
I’d say that the United States deep state swamp in conjunction (and now collusion) with the Peoples Republic of China caused this mess.
I’d say take the gubmit money. It’s their liability.
Al Z & Because Science – I’ve called you out twice now.
No name calling.
When will you respond to facts and logic?
AL – you seem to have a twisted understanding of liability.
I’d like to understand how people being exposed to an allegedly dangerous virus against their will and without their knowledge are liable akin to a drunk driver?
Because Science (BS) would you take a moment and address the FACTS that have been presented to you? Are you capable of more than BS?
No name calling here.
Just a little science.
If you’re able.
I agree with the Government owns your body folks like Al and Because Science that name calling ruins the argument.
t’s really a rather simple.
To ask these types If Vaccines work, why worry if someone is not vaccinated.
If the Govt can mandate an experimental vaccine to protect is, why not bring back lobotomies and forced incarceration facilities to house the growing mentally ill populations living on the streets?
They all by same logic pose the same danger to public health, (although you may have a 99.995% chance to survive Covid but much lower chance surviving a plague or hammer blow to the head from some of the street types but I digress)
If the forced government control types logic is the use of hospital resources then we should also address regulation of food establishments grocery stores liquor and pot stores to ensure only healthy choices are allowed to be sold in order to conserve hospital resources.
How many beds and what are the costs of the grossly obese in our society, or the drunks and pot heads either driving under the influence or holed up in moms basement collecting tax funded benefits?
If that was part of this I just may consider changing my old fashioned view that it’s my body, my choice.
Where does Al and Because Science propose we stop with what’s in the “public’s best interest”?
Why do they care so much? If it’s truly about hospitalizations then why stop at the vaccine?
We have some crazies to lobotomies and lock up, eugenics anyone?
I think my friends that’s the answer you don’t.
Nice double standard there Jack – “I’d say that the United States deep state swamp in conjunction (and now collusion) with the Peoples Republic of China caused this mess.”
If that is the case, they have given us a vaccine that many people choose not to take.
Now the onus of getting sick is on the individual who chooses not to vax.
90 some percent of all hospitalizations are unvaxed.
This crowd argues for personal responsibility, now you want the government to save us.
Most of you idiots argue in circles.
Save yourself.
The sheeple will cite their websites, while they can easily be countered with opposing data.
However, any opposing data is discredited since it fails to fit the narrative.
There is no denying, some people much prefer that “Gubment” coddles and holds their hand from cradle to grave.
The same ones who never paved their way in life, always waiting for that next mandate, law or handout from Big Brother.
Kinda sad, that while people will risk floating on mattresses from other countries to arrive to this great country, we have an ever-growing population of self-proclaimed “victims” who much prefer their victimhood status in effort to exploit those who work for a living and as patriots appreciate what we have and what our founding fathers went through.
Please, those of you who subscribe to this socialist regime, go home to your Cuba and Venezuela and remind us how great those dictatorships are fareing.
Yes, yes, yes, now it’s your turn to remind me that those countries only live in poverty because of having been exploited by the West.
In closing, you cannot fix dumb, nor can you argue with those surviving off the “Gubment” tit.
“Nurses, protesters rally against hospital vaccine mandate in Elgin
Jacquie Loiacono, right, helped organize a rally that drew about 60 people Wednesday, many of them nurses like her, to protest a COVID-19 vaccination mandate at Advocate Sherman Hospital in Elgin. Parent company Advocate Aurora Health will require employees to be fully vaccinated for COVID-19 by Oct. 15.”
Pokorny, who let you out of the nuthouse.
Put your BLM flag back up so you can be triggered for another meltdown.
Get your buddie Mike Tryon & Al Zielinski to sing the black national anthem.
The children belong to the State.
The parents have no say.
Just like the USSR.
The libtards are going to pay dearly for their crimes. I’ll be happy to rig the nooses.
Stephen – where’s the double standard?
I can say that the US and China caused the mess, thereby they can be liable to fix it.
I can also say that where the above may be logical, it doesn’t require a sovereign human being to accept any “solution”.
Individuals can evaluate that on their own, and make their own choices.
Haven’t you noticed the pattern yet?
Government creates a PROBLEM (Covid)
Knowing there will be a citizen REACTION (help!!)
So that they can devise a SOLUTION (vaccine)
The solution is always has strings.
That’s the problem.
Further, solutions usually come in three stages:
SUGGEST: “c’mon man – get the shot!”
SHOVE: “if you don’t get the shot, you can’t….”
SHOOT: “get in this boxcar for your own safety”
I’ll leave it to you to determine where we are.
What happens with:
– a mass shooting?
– a natural disaster?
– a perceived threat? (Wars on crime/drugs/terror)
Each time, whether government created the problem through incompetence or collusion, there is always a problem to which we react (hyped up by media) and thereby the safety of government swoops in to trade away a bit more freedom for a bit more safety with their brilliant solution.
But I don’t want their solution.
It doesn’t work, and it creates more risk for me than reward. I am free to make my own choices, protected by the rule of law and my rifle should it come down to it.
Think, Stephen:
Why are we less free today than we were just 20 years ago, or 100 years before that?
Why did our grandparents live in a better world than we did?
Why is everything so out of sorts??
It all goes back to one thing, that America – the idea that man can rule himself – has been a thorn in the side of power hungry aristocrats for 250 years.
They want slaves, serfs, and peasants again.
We’re almost there via debt slavery but it’s not enough – we have to be completely subservient before these sycophants will even let up.
My body, my choice, Stephen.
I prefer dangerous freedom to peaceful slavery.
My family is five generations free in this country.
My children and theirs will also be free or I will die in that pursuit.
No double standards.
Just a watchful eye on the tyrants and a commitment to stand with those who value human liberty in all of its forms over anything else.
You’re free to think otherwise.
And I fight for that too.
“The Silver Lining in all of this is that there will be fewer Republican voters come 2022 and the average IQ of the American public may go up a few points.”
Someone seems to be absolutely convinced that Republicans are inferior to them.
You sound quite insecure about your situation in life.
Statistically, Republicans are also said to be better looking.
What’s the issue with you?
“My body, my choice, Stephen.”
You are right.
“I’d say take the gubmit money. It’s their liability.”
They have given us a solution and you choose not to take it.
I say suffer the consequences.
I do think Jack, Just not like you. thank god, and the rest of the loons who post here.
Along with personal freedom comes social responsibility.
This crowd decries everyone else that cries me, me, me. and the selfish bastards on this blog are the loudest at mine, mine, mine, and in the name of the lord yet.
So spare me the hypocrisy of it all in the name of freedom.
Be sure to read about how Hitler took power away from parents in an article Sarturday.
“They have given us a solution….”
Explain the solution, please.
Explain why compulsory injection of an unproven, experimental therapeutic drug is a “solution”?
Explain why every statistic surrounding vaccine injury and death is through the roof, yet if you talk about that, you’re canceled or banned?
Explain why any medical doctor or scientist with a dissenting opinion from the corp/gov/media narrative is met with a virulent, shaming response?
Further:
Why aren’t thousands of COVID shot deaths in the past 12 months (as opposed to hundreds prior) being reported in the mainstream press? The discrepancy between former vaccine deaths and current would indicate a very different type of “public health disaster”.
Why aren’t we talking about mental health and suicide rates, particularly among children?
What about the tens of thousands of vaccine injuries and hundreds of thousands of adverse reactions to the shot (most also, unreported)?
What of the lack of death from any cause than COVID?
Why did all causes of death plummet in 2020?
Why are children being vaccinated when risk factors do not remotely support their vaccination?
Why are corporations and government entities requiring vaccines when a) to require such is illegal, and b)
the vaccine isn’t stage 4 approved, and c) it isn’t a vaccine?
How does ANY doctor, government, or corporate entity pass muster by pressuring another to accept being part of an EXPERIMENTAL vaccine trial without telling them that it’s an EXPERIMENT?
Why is media not reporting the fact that government websites plainly explain that these drugs are EXPERIMENTAL, NOT APPROVED, and that is it ILLEGAL to make compulsory, yet media and government promote
the opposite?
Why are vaccinated people concerned with what unvaccinated people are doing? Doesn’t the product work?
How does one explain other states with ZERO mask mandates, and ZERO vaccine mandates – yet experiencing healthy populations?
Of masks, known to also be of more detriment than help: Why are masks continually pushed as compulsory?
Please explain why proof of anti-bodies from natural infection, widely accepted in the medical community as superior to experimental innolculation, not an acceptable substitute for taking on the risks of a new,
EXPERIMENTAL bio-tech drug?
What is shedding?
Who sheds on who?
What do they shed?
Pfizer documents show that the predominant concentration of lipid nano-particles concentrate in the female ovaries and the spleen:
What are the risks of lipid nano-particle in the ovaries as related to female reproduction?
What are the long term effects of nano-particles in the spleen (your blood filter)?
What happened to medical privacy?
Are not our bodies sovereign?
I actually think a lot, Stephen.
And because I do think, I know some stuff.
I know that my family had Covid, and I know that every coronavirus immunology study before 2020 tells us that a natural immune response is far superior to an artificial derived response, without any of the risks that come with inoculation.
Because of this, I know the shot is an unnecessary risk for my family.
I also know that some pre-existing conditions in my family rule out vaccinations of this type as high risk.
Are you saying that because my family and the tens of millions like us can’t follow the prescribed narrative (despite being completely safe) that we should be denied liberty?
Yes – sucks to be you
Re Aug 12 2:05 PM comment on the Hitler regime
Interesting that here in the U.S., the media is mostly left wing biased and have shown to be shills for and handmaidens to the Democrat Party and Democrat politicians such as Joe Biden currently and Barak Hussein Obama and Bill Clinton in past years.
This media is dishonest, hides and sweeps under the rug issues and facts that are unfavorable to Democrats such as they did in 2020 covering up the numerous, numerous faults and problems (senility, dementia) and past incompetence, plagiarism, racist comments, Hunter Biden, etc of Joe Biden.
Combining with the bias of most of the media in the last few years are tech giants that provide communication platforms for citizens. These giants have taken to censoring content put up by people which THEY DEEM unsuitable and unfavorable to Democrats and the current Democrat president. They have even banned certain people from using their platforms.
Is the highly biased (to the left) U.S. media and tech giant platforms’ censorship approaching the media control and propaganda used in Germany in the 1930’s?
Josef Goebbels was appointed Minister of Propaganda in 1933 and aimed to brainwash people into obeying the Nazis and idolising Hitler.
Goebbels controlled the media and arts, making sure that Germans were fed Nazi ideology while censoring other information.
Any media that conveyed anti-Nazi ideas or even other ways of life, were censored. Censorship of newspapers, radio, cinema and the theatre was enforced. Only books which agreed with the Nazi point of view were allowed. All other books were banned and many were publicly burned from May, 1933.”
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Yeah thats it..The Government wants all that all of you geniuses know.
BAAAAAAA.
Not a college degree to be found among any of you.
The schools have your child for 6-7 hours a day and they have had control over children more so than parents for the last 20 years.
The problem is y’all been sleeping and lazy.
Not one of you have personally spoken to a World-renowned expert on covid and not one of you have helped families devastated by covid..
Bravo..
Who knew we have such deep intellect and scientific aptitude right here
Poo-korny. That’s a more accurate moniker for you.
And it’s still there?
I give it 24 hours or until nightfall.
How about a sign that says: “Get vaccinated you Moron!”
“The crisis: a massive new surge of COVID-19, a surge almost entirely among the unvaccinated and centered in states and communities where leaders have continued to stoke contempt for the safety recommendations of pandemic experts.
The hot new cultural take: think pieces about whether or not Americans deserve to be angry at fellow Americans who, through their own behavior, turned what looked to be a major victory against the pandemic into a new surge unlike any of the others, one disproportionately targeting young children, featuring a new variant that has now evaded our spring and summer attempts to end the pandemic through vaccine-based herd immunity.”
ttps://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/10/2044971/-Americans-have-every-right-to-be-angry-with-the-people-who-brought-us-this-new-pandemic-surge
Hmm, Strange, Comrade Fauci dictated along with Lunch Bucket Joe, that you would be safe once vaccinated.
However, many of the vile regressives much prefer you do as they do.
Or else.
Because, well, you know, they know what’s best for all of us.
It’s much easier to steal another mans fish rather than having to learn how to fish oneself.
Teh Democratic Mantra.
That, and “its for the children.”
The Silver Lining in all of this is that there will be fewer Republican voters come 2022 and the average IQ of the American public may go up a few points.
Better news BecauseScience that come 2023 Fauci worshippers who now have had twenty Covid boosters Jabs have all become cast members on the “Walking Dead” and are able to appear without costume or makeup.
Perhaps one should scroll to the previous post regarding “Gubment” employees and the State of Illinois as one of the highest ranking.
Do tell, how would all those “essential” (quotes used loosely) lackees get paid if it were not for those “deplorable” Republican, dare I say, Capitalists?
Ya know, the ones who actually work and pay their salaries.
Here, I will help you with the appropriate democratic response.
“If Republicans leave the State, we will just hire more Democrats for “Gubment” positions, thus creating more jos (jobs).
Needless to say, Economics never suited them well.
Too funny. “20 Boosters.”
Again, if you have taken the cocktail, as per comrade Fauci, you are then totally safe.
Why so worried about those who choose not too?
Why is it that all the Democratic responses and theories always have to do with control and reaching around to your wallet?
Quick, any word on the unvaxed illegals that Lunch Bucket Joe is letting in by the Tens of Thousands by plane and bus?
Ya know, the same illegals he is quoted as saying a couple of weeks ago, he intends on “streamlining” their immigration.
I am sure it’s beause of his “compassion” for humanity rather than the thousands of additional votes.
Quick, look at the goose.
These are popping up EVERYWHERE and I for one am glad to see it.
Parents deserve the CHOICE to make this decision on behalf of their own children, not the dist, and certainly not the govt.
If you are worried about getting it yourself get a vax, and wear a mask yourself.
Children globally are the LEAST affected age group to both get infected and have any seriously health issues from it.
Asymptomatic still has not been proven as a form of transmission.
Healthy kids should not be wearing masks.
“Children accounted for 15% of reported COVID-19 cases in the week leading up to Aug. 5.”
See below for the source.
Masks protect others as well as the wearer.
It’s not about personal rights, it’s about protecting society in general.
That applies especially to children who are at risk of painful “long Covid” symptoms that will haunt them for their entire lives.
Data from the American Academy of Pediatrics.
“As of August 5, nearly 4.3 million children have tested positive for COVID-19 since the onset of the pandemic. Almost 94,000 cases were added the past week, a continuing substantial increase. After declining in early summer, child cases have steadily increased since the beginning of July.”
https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report?ftag=MSF0951a18
It would be very useful and helpful if all the “patriots” would ban together to fight and finally defeat a common foe threatening the country before it escalates to a more deadly variant this Fall and Winter.
Hmm, now that is strange.
Was it not Lord Fauci who said month’s ago that the masks did little to nothing?
Are we citing sources now?
Let’s do it then.
I can cite all day.
Jacobs, J. L. et al. (2009) “Use of surgical face masks to reduce the incidence of the common cold among health care workers in Japan: A randomized controlled trial,” American Journal of Infection Control, Volume 37, Issue 5, 417 – 419. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19216002
N95-masked health-care workers (HCW) were significantly more likely to experience headaches.
Face mask use in HCW was not demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds.
Cowling, B. et al. (2010) “Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A systematic review,” Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/face-masks-to-prevent-transmission-of-influenza-virus-a-systematic- review/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05
None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.
Blacks are the least likely to get vaccinated.
Your narrative doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.
Apparantly, the word “patriot” is used loosely and only when fitting the narrative.
I digress.
The one and the same source cited from the American Academy of Pediatrics who profess to wanting children be masked indefinately.
The one and the same who recieve M M M M Millions in grant monies from the “Gubment.”
https://dreddymd.com/2021/08/11/american-academy-of-pediatrics-demands-that-all-children-be-masked-forever-regardless-of-vaccination-status/
Anymore, “sources,” cause this is getting old…
If one wants to heed the ramblings of one individual over the consensus of an organization of highly-respected medical professionals, so be it.
One phrase that works well is “Consider the source.”
A dead giveaway is usually the use of absolutes, e.g., “forever.”
Masking “forever” is nonsensical on its face.
Based on that latest response, one could surmise you did not fare well on the debate team nor advance logic in any college setting.
Keep trying, you may get it one day.
GET THE TRUMP VACCINE PATRIOTS!
Al Z, the town fool!
For those that slept threw the worst performance of science and health policy institutions in human history.
There is a surprising amount of science in marketing and a surprising amount of marketing in science.
Anti-vaxxers who are election conspirators, like this guy, have quickly grouped themselves as fringe members of society.
Their voices uplifted only by the other ignoramuses that faintly support them, their passions ignited only by their egos and emotions overwhelming any otherwise rational thought.
You’ve got to feel bad for people who live their lives like this.
They’ve struggled all their lives because they’ve never been winners in anyone else’s eyes except those they’ve managed to manipulate.
One positive aspect about it is that a lot of them are old and probably won’t be around much longer!
Sometimes that makes me smile.
Let’s start with Al Z.
Might I remind you that we fought your lack of tax assessment prowess with facts and logic… and WON.
Perhaps the details aren’t really your thing.
Math isn’t.
Ethics sure as hell escaped you.
Why not leave science alone?
Let’s finish with ‘Because Science’ who also needs some help with the facts.
The human immune system is far superior to the currently promoted coronavirus therapuetic.
Those that allow themselves to be experimented on will likely find that their reaction to the live virus is less than desirable IF they encounter said live virus in combination with any other viral element that sufficienly taxes their immune system.
In other words, I don’t believe you’ll get your wish.
I suspect it could be quite the opposite – that’s what previous animal studies and some current human examples would suggest, such as in Israel and Boston.
Why?
That’s the way coronaviruses and experiemental drugs have historically worked out.
You know… because “science”.
By the way, DJ nailed it!
Al, didn’t you run for an election and like 90 percent voted against you?
Yes BecauseScience you are right he got that out in warp speed
Two more indisputable facts.
(1) The anti-vax, anti-mask Governor of Texas is now pleading for out-of-state medical professionals to come help his over-run state.
How about only anti-vax, anti-mask medical professionals can respond?
(2) The anti-vax, anti-mask state of Mississippi is requesting the Navy hospital ship Comfort to save its overloaded healthcare system.
Seems like using federal funds doing that would no different than “…who recieve M M M M Millions in grant monies from the “Gubment.”
Here’s an easy and fair national solution.
Nobody is required to get vaccinated or wear masks.
However, if (not when) they get sick and go the hospital, they’re refused treatment because it’s the hospital’s “right” to refuse service.
There’s a Unmask Our Kids Rally in Crystal Lake on Saturday noon-3pm at Main St and 14
A rushed vaccine is something to brag about?
Sorry, but I don’t trust big corporations!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrgC31V6zMA
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pfizer-settlement/pfizer-settles-foreign-bribery-case-with-u-s-government-idUSBRE8760WM20120807
I’m old enough to remember the government saying Monsanto was all good and now it’s known that they have products that cause cancer.
Of course, Obama appointed a former Monsanto guy in charge of the Food and Drug Administration…
How about these signs:
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Well, Al… who is ultimately liable for the injury and death caused by Kung Flu?
Let’s see:
USA funds Fauci @ the NIH
NIH gives grant money to Wuhan
Obama moved Chapel Hill CV research to Wuhan
Wuhan did gain of function research on CV’s
Said research created CV-19
I’d say that the United States deep state swamp in conjunction (and now collusion) with the Peoples Republic of China caused this mess.
I’d say take the gubmit money. It’s their liability.
Al, you’re a crook, how about admitting that?
You are a crook, Al.
https://summit.news/2021/08/10/swiss-police-threaten-to-stop-enforcing-covid-19-rules/
https://gab.com/thelogger/posts/106700380990958667
Victory in Alberta against the Covid hoax!
Zielinski, you, sir, are a moron!
That’s a decline from your previous mental reading: Imbecile.
You deserved to be booted out of your Grafton township tax assessor sinecure.
“… who is ultimately liable…”
An easy answer: each person who chooses not to get vaccinated.
The same as anyone who recklessly causes the death of another through negligence such as drunk driving or improper use of a firearm.
I’m genuinely amused at the name-calling.
As if I would assign any credence to childish behavior from nameless posters.
Yes Al.
All they can do on here is name call, label, and insult.
They never any attempt to address the facts.
As soon as they call you names, they have lost the argument.
The French say no to the vaccine mandates. The truth is spreading steadily.
https://apnews.com/article/europe-health-coronavirus-pandemic-dc03061cb033cb4181ff5424acb9ed63
Al Z & Because Science – I’ve called you out twice now.
No name calling.
When will you respond to facts and logic?
AL – you seem to have a twisted understanding of liability.
I’d like to understand how people being exposed to an allegedly dangerous virus against their will and without their knowledge are liable akin to a drunk driver?
Because Science (BS) would you take a moment and address the FACTS that have been presented to you? Are you capable of more than BS?
No name calling here.
Just a little science.
If you’re able.
I agree with the Government owns your body folks like Al and Because Science that name calling ruins the argument.
t’s really a rather simple.
To ask these types If Vaccines work, why worry if someone is not vaccinated.
If the Govt can mandate an experimental vaccine to protect is, why not bring back lobotomies and forced incarceration facilities to house the growing mentally ill populations living on the streets?
They all by same logic pose the same danger to public health, (although you may have a 99.995% chance to survive Covid but much lower chance surviving a plague or hammer blow to the head from some of the street types but I digress)
If the forced government control types logic is the use of hospital resources then we should also address regulation of food establishments grocery stores liquor and pot stores to ensure only healthy choices are allowed to be sold in order to conserve hospital resources.
How many beds and what are the costs of the grossly obese in our society, or the drunks and pot heads either driving under the influence or holed up in moms basement collecting tax funded benefits?
If that was part of this I just may consider changing my old fashioned view that it’s my body, my choice.
Where does Al and Because Science propose we stop with what’s in the “public’s best interest”?
Why do they care so much? If it’s truly about hospitalizations then why stop at the vaccine?
We have some crazies to lobotomies and lock up, eugenics anyone?
I think my friends that’s the answer you don’t.
Nice double standard there Jack – “I’d say that the United States deep state swamp in conjunction (and now collusion) with the Peoples Republic of China caused this mess.”
If that is the case, they have given us a vaccine that many people choose not to take.
Now the onus of getting sick is on the individual who chooses not to vax.
90 some percent of all hospitalizations are unvaxed.
This crowd argues for personal responsibility, now you want the government to save us.
Most of you idiots argue in circles.
Save yourself.
The sheeple will cite their websites, while they can easily be countered with opposing data.
However, any opposing data is discredited since it fails to fit the narrative.
There is no denying, some people much prefer that “Gubment” coddles and holds their hand from cradle to grave.
The same ones who never paved their way in life, always waiting for that next mandate, law or handout from Big Brother.
Kinda sad, that while people will risk floating on mattresses from other countries to arrive to this great country, we have an ever-growing population of self-proclaimed “victims” who much prefer their victimhood status in effort to exploit those who work for a living and as patriots appreciate what we have and what our founding fathers went through.
Please, those of you who subscribe to this socialist regime, go home to your Cuba and Venezuela and remind us how great those dictatorships are fareing.
Yes, yes, yes, now it’s your turn to remind me that those countries only live in poverty because of having been exploited by the West.
In closing, you cannot fix dumb, nor can you argue with those surviving off the “Gubment” tit.
Per:
https://www.dailyherald.com/business/20210811/nurses-protesters-rally-against-hospital-vaccine-mandate-in-elgin
“Nurses, protesters rally against hospital vaccine mandate in Elgin
Jacquie Loiacono, right, helped organize a rally that drew about 60 people Wednesday, many of them nurses like her, to protest a COVID-19 vaccination mandate at Advocate Sherman Hospital in Elgin. Parent company Advocate Aurora Health will require employees to be fully vaccinated for COVID-19 by Oct. 15.”
Pokorny, who let you out of the nuthouse.
Put your BLM flag back up so you can be triggered for another meltdown.
Get your buddie Mike Tryon & Al Zielinski to sing the black national anthem.
The children belong to the State.
The parents have no say.
Just like the USSR.
The libtards are going to pay dearly for their crimes. I’ll be happy to rig the nooses.
Stephen – where’s the double standard?
I can say that the US and China caused the mess, thereby they can be liable to fix it.
I can also say that where the above may be logical, it doesn’t require a sovereign human being to accept any “solution”.
Individuals can evaluate that on their own, and make their own choices.
Haven’t you noticed the pattern yet?
Government creates a PROBLEM (Covid)
Knowing there will be a citizen REACTION (help!!)
So that they can devise a SOLUTION (vaccine)
The solution is always has strings.
That’s the problem.
Further, solutions usually come in three stages:
SUGGEST: “c’mon man – get the shot!”
SHOVE: “if you don’t get the shot, you can’t….”
SHOOT: “get in this boxcar for your own safety”
I’ll leave it to you to determine where we are.
What happens with:
– a mass shooting?
– a natural disaster?
– a perceived threat? (Wars on crime/drugs/terror)
Each time, whether government created the problem through incompetence or collusion, there is always a problem to which we react (hyped up by media) and thereby the safety of government swoops in to trade away a bit more freedom for a bit more safety with their brilliant solution.
But I don’t want their solution.
It doesn’t work, and it creates more risk for me than reward. I am free to make my own choices, protected by the rule of law and my rifle should it come down to it.
Think, Stephen:
Why are we less free today than we were just 20 years ago, or 100 years before that?
Why did our grandparents live in a better world than we did?
Why is everything so out of sorts??
It all goes back to one thing, that America – the idea that man can rule himself – has been a thorn in the side of power hungry aristocrats for 250 years.
They want slaves, serfs, and peasants again.
We’re almost there via debt slavery but it’s not enough – we have to be completely subservient before these sycophants will even let up.
My body, my choice, Stephen.
I prefer dangerous freedom to peaceful slavery.
My family is five generations free in this country.
My children and theirs will also be free or I will die in that pursuit.
No double standards.
Just a watchful eye on the tyrants and a commitment to stand with those who value human liberty in all of its forms over anything else.
You’re free to think otherwise.
And I fight for that too.
“The Silver Lining in all of this is that there will be fewer Republican voters come 2022 and the average IQ of the American public may go up a few points.”
Someone seems to be absolutely convinced that Republicans are inferior to them.
You sound quite insecure about your situation in life.
Statistically, Republicans are also said to be better looking.
What’s the issue with you?
“My body, my choice, Stephen.”
You are right.
“I’d say take the gubmit money. It’s their liability.”
They have given us a solution and you choose not to take it.
I say suffer the consequences.
I do think Jack, Just not like you. thank god, and the rest of the loons who post here.
Along with personal freedom comes social responsibility.
This crowd decries everyone else that cries me, me, me. and the selfish bastards on this blog are the loudest at mine, mine, mine, and in the name of the lord yet.
So spare me the hypocrisy of it all in the name of freedom.
Be sure to read about how Hitler took power away from parents in an article Sarturday.
“They have given us a solution….”
Explain the solution, please.
Explain why compulsory injection of an unproven, experimental therapeutic drug is a “solution”?
Explain why every statistic surrounding vaccine injury and death is through the roof, yet if you talk about that, you’re canceled or banned?
Explain why any medical doctor or scientist with a dissenting opinion from the corp/gov/media narrative is met with a virulent, shaming response?
Further:
Why aren’t thousands of COVID shot deaths in the past 12 months (as opposed to hundreds prior) being reported in the mainstream press? The discrepancy between former vaccine deaths and current would indicate a very different type of “public health disaster”.
Why aren’t we talking about mental health and suicide rates, particularly among children?
What about the tens of thousands of vaccine injuries and hundreds of thousands of adverse reactions to the shot (most also, unreported)?
What of the lack of death from any cause than COVID?
Why did all causes of death plummet in 2020?
Why are children being vaccinated when risk factors do not remotely support their vaccination?
Why are corporations and government entities requiring vaccines when a) to require such is illegal, and b)
the vaccine isn’t stage 4 approved, and c) it isn’t a vaccine?
How does ANY doctor, government, or corporate entity pass muster by pressuring another to accept being part of an EXPERIMENTAL vaccine trial without telling them that it’s an EXPERIMENT?
Why is media not reporting the fact that government websites plainly explain that these drugs are EXPERIMENTAL, NOT APPROVED, and that is it ILLEGAL to make compulsory, yet media and government promote
the opposite?
Why are vaccinated people concerned with what unvaccinated people are doing? Doesn’t the product work?
How does one explain other states with ZERO mask mandates, and ZERO vaccine mandates – yet experiencing healthy populations?
Of masks, known to also be of more detriment than help: Why are masks continually pushed as compulsory?
Please explain why proof of anti-bodies from natural infection, widely accepted in the medical community as superior to experimental innolculation, not an acceptable substitute for taking on the risks of a new,
EXPERIMENTAL bio-tech drug?
What is shedding?
Who sheds on who?
What do they shed?
Pfizer documents show that the predominant concentration of lipid nano-particles concentrate in the female ovaries and the spleen:
What are the risks of lipid nano-particle in the ovaries as related to female reproduction?
What are the long term effects of nano-particles in the spleen (your blood filter)?
What happened to medical privacy?
Are not our bodies sovereign?
I actually think a lot, Stephen.
And because I do think, I know some stuff.
I know that my family had Covid, and I know that every coronavirus immunology study before 2020 tells us that a natural immune response is far superior to an artificial derived response, without any of the risks that come with inoculation.
Because of this, I know the shot is an unnecessary risk for my family.
I also know that some pre-existing conditions in my family rule out vaccinations of this type as high risk.
Are you saying that because my family and the tens of millions like us can’t follow the prescribed narrative (despite being completely safe) that we should be denied liberty?
Yes – sucks to be you
Re Aug 12 2:05 PM comment on the Hitler regime
Interesting that here in the U.S., the media is mostly left wing biased and have shown to be shills for and handmaidens to the Democrat Party and Democrat politicians such as Joe Biden currently and Barak Hussein Obama and Bill Clinton in past years.
This media is dishonest, hides and sweeps under the rug issues and facts that are unfavorable to Democrats such as they did in 2020 covering up the numerous, numerous faults and problems (senility, dementia) and past incompetence, plagiarism, racist comments, Hunter Biden, etc of Joe Biden.
Combining with the bias of most of the media in the last few years are tech giants that provide communication platforms for citizens. These giants have taken to censoring content put up by people which THEY DEEM unsuitable and unfavorable to Democrats and the current Democrat president. They have even banned certain people from using their platforms.
Is the highly biased (to the left) U.S. media and tech giant platforms’ censorship approaching the media control and propaganda used in Germany in the 1930’s?
Per:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zn8sgk7/revision/3
“Control through propaganda and censorship
Josef Goebbels was appointed Minister of Propaganda in 1933 and aimed to brainwash people into obeying the Nazis and idolising Hitler.
Goebbels controlled the media and arts, making sure that Germans were fed Nazi ideology while censoring other information.
Any media that conveyed anti-Nazi ideas or even other ways of life, were censored. Censorship of newspapers, radio, cinema and the theatre was enforced. Only books which agreed with the Nazi point of view were allowed. All other books were banned and many were publicly burned from May, 1933.”
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Yeah thats it..The Government wants all that all of you geniuses know.
BAAAAAAA.
Not a college degree to be found among any of you.
The schools have your child for 6-7 hours a day and they have had control over children more so than parents for the last 20 years.
The problem is y’all been sleeping and lazy.
Not one of you have personally spoken to a World-renowned expert on covid and not one of you have helped families devastated by covid..
Bravo..
Who knew we have such deep intellect and scientific aptitude right here
Poo-korny. That’s a more accurate moniker for you.