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The Libertarians’ Problem with the Illinois Republican Convention

June 12, 2012 By: Cal Skinner Category: Delegate, Illinois Repubilcan Party, Illinois Republican Convention, Libertarian, Libertarian Party, Ron Paul, Walk Out

Wonder why the Libertarians who went to the Illinois Republican Convention are dissatisfied with the folks who ran the Tinley Park gathering?

I couldn’t find a way to ask for permission to reprint the following, but I wanted you to have a chance to see why Ron Paul supporters are not happy with the GOP Establishment:

Ron Paul delegate appointment at the GOP convention…

Some Illinois residents on this board may have seen this story floating around.

As Parliamentarian for the Illinois Ron Paul campaign, I thought you guys might be interested in what really happened at the Illinois GOP convention.

About 85,000 Illinoisans voted for Ron Paul in the primary (about 10% of the electorate) and we wanted to appoint 6 delegates for the national convention out of 69 to represent those 85,000 (Illinois is winner take 57 and 12 are appointed at the convention).

In fact, we had 250 state Ron Paul delegates who were at the convention (20% of the delegates).

These state delegates all vote to appoint the national delegates at the coming national GOP convention.

It was me and a friend of mine (law students) against 8 Romney attorneys.

On Friday, the committee hosted an open meeting on selection of delegates but rejected our motion to put delegates up for a vote among the committee … but seeing as we had no committeemen and (it was all but impossible for a Ron Paul supporter to get on this committee… this all was expected. I informed the campaign as much.

The 250 Paul delegates attended the committee meetings but kept running up to me “saying, they did this, can they do that?”

With a heavy heart, I had to say yes every time. But I knew we had one shot on Saturday and we had our plan ready to go a week prior.

Saturday was the official convention where the delegates all voted.

And the speakers at the convention went on a tirade against Mike Madigan (who I agree rules by virtual fiat) and gave a presentation on how government in Illinois ices people out of the process in which Mike Bost spoke. You might remember him from this video that went viral: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5lKk-Iq_sM&feature=related )… and so right AFTER that, this happened….

  • –> the Ron Paul wing’s written motion to put up 6 Ron Paul delegates for a floor vote was ruled out of order because we had only 37 (we had 41 but they said 4 didn’t count) out of 50 signatures by Chairmen delegations

Let’s put that ruling into context…

  • –> They refused to release the modified rules for putting forth motions until 11:20am
  • –> We were required to make the motion at 11:20am
  • –. The doors opened at 11:20am
  • –> They modified the rules to require 500 photocopies of the motion be submitted (which we knew beforehand due to a brave patriot getting us an early copy)
  • –> We submitted our motion to put up our delegate slate for a vote w/ every single requirement sans the signatures.
  • –> They invalidated 4 signatures for some unexplained reason
  • –> They had instructed everyone not to sign our motion and chairmen were afraid to sign our motion who otherwise would.
  • –> Our motion (to put 6 out of 69 delegates for Ron Paul up for a majority vote)was ruled out of order based on not enough signatures.

How is someone supported to make 500 photocopies of a motion at 11:20 am when the doors open and ruled are released at 11:20am?

Why do 500 photocopies of the motion need to be submitted?

Had the motion been entered, a delegate would have been allowed the opportunity to debate it on the floor and this all would have been on the record.

This was one of two walkouts at the Illinois Republican Convention in Tinley Park. I don't know whether it was because of the rejection of the Ron Paul delegates' desire for 10% of the at-large delegates or the failure to consider direct elections of State Central Committeemen (and the addition of elected State Central Committeewomen). The sign is for Evanston Township.

I will let you draw your own conclusions about the process.

When the doors opened at 11:20am, we RAN to the front of the hall in front of 1,000s of delegates to present our motion.

They immediately asked us for the 500 copies and it was great knowing the look on their face when they found out we actually had the 500 copies.

This meant they had to consider the motion and had to be on the record objecting to it.

They even denied it verbally on record and did so after their anti-Madigan tirade.

We now have a paper trail of this.

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Politics ought to be a game of addition and multiplication, not subtraction and division.

Being allocated 10% of the at-large delegates does not seem like an unreasonable expectation to me.

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Thanks to Dave Diersen’s GOPUSA Illinois for pointing me to this content.

Message of the Day – A Sign

August 12, 2008 By: Cal Skinner Category: Decatur Convention Center, Illinois Republican Convention, Libertarian, Ron Paul

This trailer was near where we parked at the Decatur Convention Center when we attended the Illinois Republican Convention.

It was there even though John McCain had sewed up the nomination.

Some Ron Paul supporters—the Republicans who showed the most enthusiasm during the primary campaigns—actually ran for precinct committeeman as well as working for their candidate.

These small government folks could provide interesting leavening for the GOP in the future.

Meanwhile, other Libertarian-minded folks have formed a McHenry County Libertarian Party. It will hold its regular monthly meeting August 14th at 7 PM at Vaughn’s Family Restaurant in Woodstock.  790 S Eastwood Drive in Woodstock, according to Dave Brady.

“The purpose of this meetup is to bring together Libertarians or people interested in libertarian ideas in McHenry County. This first meeting is more geared towards getting to know each other and find out what people are interested in. Come bring your enthusiasm for politics and your community!”

, according to Brady’s email.

Message of the Day – A Sign

August 12, 2008 By: Cal Skinner Category: Decatur Convention Center, Illinois Republican Convention, Libertarian, Ron Paul

This trailer was near where we parked at the Decatur Convention Center when we attended the Illinois Republican Convention.

It was there even though John McCain had sewed up the nomination.

Some Ron Paul supporters—the Republicans who showed the most enthusiasm during the primary campaigns—actually ran for precinct committeeman as well as working for their candidate.

These small government folks could provide interesting leavening for the GOP in the future.

Meanwhile, other Libertarian-minded folks have formed a McHenry County Libertarian Party. It will hold its regular monthly meeting August 14th at 7 PM at Vaughn’s Family Restaurant in Woodstock.  790 S Eastwood Drive in Woodstock, according to Dave Brady.

“The purpose of this meetup is to bring together Libertarians or people interested in libertarian ideas in McHenry County. This first meeting is more geared towards getting to know each other and find out what people are interested in. Come bring your enthusiasm for politics and your community!”

, according to Brady’s email.

Pioneer Press Looking for Internet Readers

June 19, 2008 By: Cal Skinner Category: Illinois Republican Convention, McHenry County Republicans, Pioneer Press

Pioneer Press is a weekly chain of newspapers focusing on suburban communities.

Each paper is published on Thursday.

Yet, this article appeared on Monday:

Blog Buzz: McHenry Republicans, Barrington Lookybook exciting cyberspace

June 16, 2008
Recommend

By STEPHANIE KOHL and TONY SOLANO skohl@pioneerlocal.com and tsolano@pioneerlocal.com

The McHenry County blog is buzzing about which McHenry County delegates showed up at the Illinois Republican Convention on Friday and Saturday. To view blog operator Cal Skinner’s list, log on to www.mchenrycountyblog.com/.

Nice to be noticed.

Pioneer Press Looking for Internet Readers

June 18, 2008 By: Cal Skinner Category: Illinois Republican Convention, McHenry County Republicans, Pioneer Press

Pioneer Press is a weekly chain of newspapers focusing on suburban communities.

Each paper is published on Thursday.

Yet, this article appeared on Monday:

Blog Buzz: McHenry Republicans, Barrington Lookybook exciting cyberspace

June 16, 2008
Recommend

By STEPHANIE KOHL and TONY SOLANO skohl@pioneerlocal.com and tsolano@pioneerlocal.com

The McHenry County blog is buzzing about which McHenry County delegates showed up at the Illinois Republican Convention on Friday and Saturday. To view blog operator Cal Skinner’s list, log on to www.mchenrycountyblog.com/.

Nice to be noticed.

Another Friday Convention Delegate

June 18, 2008 By: Cal Skinner Category: Chuck Lutzow, Illinois Republican Convention

Another one I did not see on Friday at the Illinois Republican Convention is former Algonquin Township Trustee Chuck Lutzow.

Thanks for letting me know.

Anyone else I missed?

Another Friday Convention Delegate

June 17, 2008 By: Cal Skinner Category: Chuck Lutzow, Illinois Republican Convention

Another one I did not see on Friday at the Illinois Republican Convention is former Algonquin Township Trustee Chuck Lutzow.

Thanks for letting me know.

Anyone else I missed?

Illinois Republican Party Plank on Energy

June 17, 2008 By: Cal Skinner Category: Illinois Republican Convention, Illinois Republican Party, Illinois Republican Platform, Nuclear Power Plants, Oil Well, Windmill

Attending the Illinois Republican Convention in Decatur took us past three energy sources.

We went south of I-39 past the Byron Nuclear Power Plants and the giant windmills. We saw we think were windmill blades sitting in water on Route 51 between Bloomington and Decatur. In Decatur on I-72, we saw oil wells.

All we missed were coal mines.

And, of course, there were corn fields all along out route. Decatur’s ADM distills more alcohol from corn than any other company.

With that as background, let’s see what the energy plank of the Illinois Republican Party says.

A CALL TO MEET ENERGY NEEDS

We believe the best answer for our current and future energy needs is to continue our investment in the technology necessary to discover new sources as well as ways to better use the sources we now have. From promoting wind energy, the use of clean coal technology to fostering exploration for natural gas and oil in Illinois, our state’s own natural resources offer a contribution toward our country’s energy independence and our economy’s future strength.

  • We embrace more robust initiatives to develop Illinois’ energy resources and embrace environmentally responsible efforts to expand domestic production of oil both here in Illinois and nationally.

  • We publicly support energy resource development within the borders of our 50 states, including environmentally responsible private sector initiatives to tap the vast reserves under the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge. We further support the expansion of our U.S. refinery capacity. The end result of expanding production will be the creation of tens of thousands of high-paying jobs, the lowering of cost of fuel to the end user and the lessening of dependence on foreign countries.

  • Illinois Republicans call on the Governor and General Assembly to take all steps necessary to add to Illinois’ nuclear power capacity.

Illinois Republican Party Plank on Energy

June 16, 2008 By: Cal Skinner Category: Illinois Republican Convention, Illinois Republican Party, Illinois Republican Platform, Nuclear Power Plants, Oil Well, Windmill

Attending the Illinois Republican Convention in Decatur took us past three energy sources.

We went south of I-39 past the Byron Nuclear Power Plants and the giant windmills. We saw we think were windmill blades sitting in water on Route 51 between Bloomington and Decatur. In Decatur on I-72, we saw oil wells.

All we missed were coal mines.

And, of course, there were corn fields all along out route. Decatur’s ADM distills more alcohol from corn than any other company.

With that as background, let’s see what the energy plank of the Illinois Republican Party says.

A CALL TO MEET ENERGY NEEDS

We believe the best answer for our current and future energy needs is to continue our investment in the technology necessary to discover new sources as well as ways to better use the sources we now have. From promoting wind energy, the use of clean coal technology to fostering exploration for natural gas and oil in Illinois, our state’s own natural resources offer a contribution toward our country’s energy independence and our economy’s future strength.

  • We embrace more robust initiatives to develop Illinois’ energy resources and embrace environmentally responsible efforts to expand domestic production of oil both here in Illinois and nationally.

  • We publicly support energy resource development within the borders of our 50 states, including environmentally responsible private sector initiatives to tap the vast reserves under the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge. We further support the expansion of our U.S. refinery capacity. The end result of expanding production will be the creation of tens of thousands of high-paying jobs, the lowering of cost of fuel to the end user and the lessening of dependence on foreign countries.

  • Illinois Republicans call on the Governor and General Assembly to take all steps necessary to add to Illinois’ nuclear power capacity.

Who Showed Up at the Illinois Republican Convention from McHenry County?

June 16, 2008 By: Cal Skinner Category: Anna Miller, Bob Miller, Donna Schaefer, Illinois Republican Convention, John O'Neill, John Ryan, Ken Koehler, McHenry County Republican Party, Mike Tryon, Pam Althoff, Tina Hill

The list was so, so “top secret, hush, hush.”

People fight at the ballot box to get to attend the Republican National Convention.

But some who signed up for the Illinois Republican Convention most certainly did not want their names to be made public.

From the talk at various places, we were going to have a full delegation of 64.

I saw 25 on Friday night and Saturday.

I started asking McHenry County Republican Party Chairman Mike Tryon for a list of the delegates right after I saw the names of six or so coming from Lawrence County in the Sumner Press. They were published right after the organizing conventions.

I never got the list.

So, I made my own.

Here are the people from McHenry County I saw at the convention:

  • State Rep. Mike Tryon
  • State Sen. Pam Althoff
  • McHenry County Board Chairman Ken Koehler
  • McHenry Township Supervisor Donna Schaefer
  • Her son Jordan Schaefer
  • McHenry County Board member Tina Hill
  • Her son Garret Hill
  • McHenry County Board member Anna Miller
  • Algonquin Township Road Commissioner Bob Miller
  • Ersel Schuster, District 6 candidate for McHenry County Board
  • Algonquin Township Central Committee Chairman Karla Dobbeck
  • Blake Hobson, who, until he moved to Lakewood, was interim Nunda Township Republican Central Committee Chairman and is now an appointed vice chairman of the county GOP charged with raising money
  • McHenry Grade School District 15 board member and precinct committeeman John O’Neill
  • District 300 School Board member and precinct committeeman John Ryan
  • Glenda Miller, Chief Deputy County Treasurer and Central Committee Secretary
  • Her husband Paul Lis
  • Brent Smith, precinct committeeman who is organizing parade walkers (meet at The Cottage in Crystal Lake on the 18th at 6:30–Walkup and Crystal Lake Avenues) and Young Republicans
  • His wife, Joni Smith
  • Kathleen Kuchta, Central Committee Vice Chairman
  • Greenwood Township precinct committeeman John McCleary, who works for the State’s Attorney’s Office
  • Joyce Story, McHenry Township precinct committeeman
  • Sue Sedar, President of the Pro Life Victory PAC
  • Linda Moore, Grafton Township precinct committeeman
  • Cal Skinner, Algonquin Township precinct committeeman
  • Michele Skinner, guard of the convention seats

In addition, Nick Kachiroubas, plus Jake Justen and his finance Ahston were sighted Friday night.

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