McHenry County Blog

Saturday’s column by Northwest Herald Editor Dan McCaleb started out praising Woodstock for not raising taxes to pay for something planned but not without financing.

McCaleb lays that off against Prairie Grove Grade School District 46′s defeated and retiring board members having extended the contract of Superintendent Mary Fasbender and given her a raise, despite a probably majority against that position when new members are sworn in.

He also points out McHenry County College Board members’ keeping resigned MCC President Walt Packard on the payroll for $200,000 a year for over a year.

The NW Herald editor reminds readers that neither the college nor the Prairie Grove board members would explain their actions.

Friday afternoon I talked to the attorney for the college and asked for whatever statement had been sent the Herald. That was after asking media person Christina Haggerty for the same thing.

Neither managed to get me anything.

So, despite the bright spot in Woodstock, I would conclude that McCaleb is too optimistic about government.

It is not unpredictable.

It is all too predictable.

Certainly that is the case with McHenry County’s very junior College and Prairie Grove Grade School.

If either can hide information from the public each will do and has consistently done so.

Even though, no because the board majority will shift as a result of April 7th school board election results, the outgoing board decided to give District 46 School Board Superintendent Mary Fasbender a raise and a contract extension through mid-2011.

At least that’s what I think happened.

The school board majority wouldn’t go farther than the wording of the motion that was passed in explaining the effect of what the did.

The most important motion was to align the superintendent’s salary and benefits and not to exceed the tax cap rate.

Whatever that means.

When Northwest Herald reporter Crystal Lindell asked for a copy of the contract, board member Laura Domoto said it had not yet been approved or signed by either side.

If I could characterize the board majority’s attitude in one word, it would be

“manana”

In short, not a board that wanted the public to know what it had just done.

Lindell said she would file a Freedom of Information request.

This, you may remember, is the school board that ran me out of the last school board meeting I attended. They called “Officer Friendly.”

The reason?

I laughed too loud.

At least I think that was the reason. If you check the link above, you’ll see my taking pictures through the Venetian blinks really irritated some of those inside the secret meeting.

It led to the WANTED poster that Crystal Lake Heck of a Guy blogger Allan Showalter developed. I liked it so much, it’s the one you see to the bottom right or here.

The Northwest Herald had a Northwestern University intern covering the meeting, which led to an article headlined

But, back to last night.

It really was not surprising to see a disappearing board majority extend its influence.

What was most interesting to me was the woman who was shouting at minority board member Charlotte Kremer two years ago, now Board President Karen Bowman, was now aligned with her in opposition to giving Superintendent Fasbender the raise and contract extension.

I know that politics consists of a series of shifting alliances, but this shift surprised me. Really surprised me.

Bowman’s opposition was made known only by her negative vote.

Kremer was more outspoken:

“I do not agree with the salary.

“I think the salaries should be frozen for the coming year due to the economic situation.”

And, later,

“You are trying (to maintain) continuity with the extension of the contract.

“(But) it’s not on the agenda.

“(This is) in violation of the Open Meetings Act.”

“Our legal counsel has validated our agenda,” Domoto replied.

“I did not see any writing from a legal counsel,” Kremer countered.

Returning to her continuity theme, Kremer said,

“The community did not want continuity. You’re not representing the community if you vote on this today.”

After the meeting she said,

“It’s just absolutely the wrong move to make,”

Attempting to explain the near opaque compensation increase just approved, Kremer said that it involved averaging increases in the Cost of Living.

Since 2009 was a mere one-tenth of one percent, the board and superintendent must be counting on inflation for Fasbender to get much of a raise.

Before I arrived there was more irony.

Tom Bieschke. the junior high school’s technology teacher-coordinator who pleaded for his job two years ago has been elected to the school board, having soundly beaten (702-284) Manish Shah for the two year term, spoke to the board. Shah at least acquiesced in Bieschke’s not being given tenure.

Bieschke, of course, recognized the old board still had the authority to do things like raise the superintendent’s salary and extend her contract, but thought it was inappropriate, considering the way the balloting turned out.

Also speaking was newly-elected board member Mischelle Yantis.

She made the same points, but is on the side of the current board majority.

You can see from 4-year term results that newcomer Vicki Marconi ran first with 767 votes.

Minority member Charlotte Kremer ran second with 669 votes.

She was followed by now majority bloc member Dale Burnidge, who got 655 votes.

Mischelle Yantis received 641 and majority bloc member Sean Rathjen came in last with 615.

While all the outsiders won, the district is obviously pretty evenly split.

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You see the full board on top after they came out of secret deliberations on District 46 Grade School Superintendent Mary Fasbender’s raise and contract extension. During most of the meetnig she was inside with the board members. She is seen waiting to be readmitted in the next photograph.

Officer Friendly is seen next by the finance guy, who left for Lake Bluff or some place nearby.

Board President Karen Bowman is below on the left. To her right, slightly lower in the story is Charlotte Kremer.

Laura Domoto is down a bit on the left hand side of the page.

The two men facing each other were opponents for the two-year term. Manish Shah is on the left, Tom Bieschke is on the right.

The smiling woman is Mischelle Yantis, being congratulated on her election to the board.

In the blue sweater is Dale Burnidge, re-elected to the board. The man looking over his glasses is Stephen Todd, who did not seek election. The gray haired gentleman is Sean Rathjen, who ran for a four-year board seat and placed last.

And seen in the photo credits is the elementary school motto, I guess. It says,

RESPECT
OTHERS

RESPECT
YOUR SCHOOL

Looks like Prairie Grove School District 46 is not the only one whose board is fuzzy on the requirements of the Open Meetings Act.

You will remember that the little school district between Crystal Lake and Cary granted its Superintendent Mary Fasbender a three-year extension on her contract–worth $450,000–in a secret meeting, according to the NW Herald.

McHenry County Blog dipped into the controversy the night of the April school board elections.

Right. That was the night I was threatened with arrest for taking pictures and laughing too loud. This is the confrontation that inspired “Heck of a Guy” Crystal Lake blogger Allan Showalter to make up a “Wanted” poster for me.

The Daily Herald reported on its web site on Tuesday that the St. Charles school board violated the Open Meetings Act for the same purpose.

And the Kane County State’s Attorney got involved, the same way the McHenry County State’s Attorney did.

School boards hiding superintendents’ contracts.

My, my.

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The top picture is Prairie Grove Grade School Superintendent Mary Fasbender while the board was in open meeting.

The bottom photo is inside the secret meeting at which her previously secretly granted raise was apparently being debated. This was taken after she jerked her head right and then left in an attempt to get out of the camera’s range. (You had to see it to believe.)

Looks like Prairie Grove School District 46 is not the only one whose board is fuzzy on the requirements of the Open Meetings Act.

You will remember that the little school district between Crystal Lake and Cary granted its Superintendent Mary Fasbender a three-year extension on her contract–worth $450,000–in a secret meeting, according to the NW Herald.

McHenry County Blog dipped into the controversy the night of the April school board elections.

Right. That was the night I was threatened with arrest for taking pictures and laughing too loud. This is the confrontation that inspired “Heck of a Guy” Crystal Lake blogger Allan Showalter to make up a “Wanted” poster for me.

The Daily Herald reported on its web site on Tuesday that the St. Charles school board violated the Open Meetings Act for the same purpose.

And the Kane County State’s Attorney got involved, the same way the McHenry County State’s Attorney did.

School boards hiding superintendents’ contracts.

My, my.

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The top picture is Prairie Grove Grade School Superintendent Mary Fasbender while the board was in open meeting.

The bottom photo is inside the secret meeting at which her previously secretly granted raise was apparently being debated. This was taken after she jerked her head right and then left in an attempt to get out of the camera’s range. (You had to see it to believe.)

First I get a parking ticket for dropping my son off at school.

Now, a Prairie Grove policeman has threatened to arrest me to trespassing in a public hall waiting for the not-so-quiet, but top secret, hush, hush District 46 school board members to come out of its executive session. I talked a bit about this yesterday.

I have never been threatened with arrest before.

Let me lay out the background.

It is obvious from Northwest Herald reporter Nick Swedberg’s stories (1 and 2) that District 46 has a lot of strange things going on.

So, at the urging of a district resident I have know for a long time, I decided to attend the meeting held on election eve.

I arrived late and, as usual, took photos of the public officials.

Elected folks probably don’t know how many pictures it takes to get a decent one. One candidate emailed me during the campaign asking if I had put up the worst picture I had taken of him.

I told him it was the best I had obtained.

I’ll write other stories about what happened in the meeting, but, when I entered a woman, who turned out to be a McHenry Marlin Swim Team Mom and who serves on the board, was being talked down to by her colleagues.

Her name is Charlotte Kremer.

She reminds me of Huntley School District 158’s Larry Snow when he first got elected.

All alone against a hostile ruling majority.

This is a small district, but the seats for the audience in the school library were filled.

Kremer was trying to get some items taken off the consent agenda.

And, the board members were hassling her.

I wonder what part of the word “consent” they don’t understand.

Then, a board member named Karen Bowman made conciliatory sounds.

Boy, did she fool me. She seemed reasonable while there was an audience.

I’m sure that’s the public persona she wants to project.

The other members of her clique quickly fell into line with Bowman and Kremer got her discussion, but behind closed doors.

When this open part of the meeting was concluded, the audience cleared out and the board members had a little break. Then, the doors were closed and the real meeting began.

Everyone waiting outside figured it was about the really generous three-year extension on Supt. Fasbender’s contract, plus whatever Kremer wanted to discuss.

First I got some name spellings from the PTO vice president and the lady from Oakwood Hills who told the board that she though Fasbender was the board president because she seemed to be running the meeting. Then, I talked with two of the candidates challenging the incumbent school board members–David Etling and Sharon Rogowski.

I met the Northwest Herald reporter, an intern from the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University.

As I do with virtually all executive sessions, I took some pictures of the wall and door. The Venetian blinds were down, but open, as you can see in the top picture.

Next, I noticed that one could see in through the vertical windows of the two doors.

Superintendent Fasbender was nicely centered in one, so I tried to take her photo. She ducked right, then, left to avoid the camera lens. You can see I got her picture. I can’t figure out why she didn’t want her picture taken.

Bowman, by this time, was browbeating Kremer.

She was vigorously gesturing.

Then, she was shouting at the top of her lungs.

“You’re going to hear from me!” she screamed.

It really startled me until I figured that this 12-year school board member had just completely lost control of herself.

At one point, someone got up to close the Venetian blinds. So, I took a picture of that.

And, then, I noticed there was about a foot of unblocked window between the bottom of the blinds and what I think was a fairly wide chair rail.

The Bowman tirade continued.

That’s when I got this picture I published much too early Wednesday morning.

Bowman saw me tying to take her picture and lunged to the Venetian blind, which was behind an easel. She jerked on one end. The blind collapsed, as you can see in the next photograph.

At some point I started laughing.

Lowering a blind didn’t stop her voice from getting through the window.

The more I heard and saw of this totally unacceptable behavior, the funnier it stuck me.

As I mentioned yesterday, my laugh is pretty piercing.

They probably heard my reaction to the outrageous way Bowman was acting toward her fellow board member.

I have never seen a school or village board meeting so out of control, except maybe in the late 1960’s, when Algonquin Township Supervisor George Starr rapped his gavel so hard so many times that I thought he would break it. (A local Richardson Publications Mike Royko, code named Phoenix, wrote a column filled with variations of “Bam, bam, bam.” It was a long column.)

But Bowman’s completely out-of-control rant certainly takes the cake for the last three decades.

Some administrator, whom I figured was the business manager from the report he gave, walked out of the room across the hall into the gym. He didn’t say a word.

After the previous admonitions about paper use, apparently for at least the second year, from board member Manish Shah, I figured they couldn’t find any paper in the library to cover up the vertical door windows and he has been sent to find some and, maybe some Scotch Tape.

Things quieted down inside and some of those left waiting for the doors to be opened were talking for, I don’t know, 5, 10, 15 minutes.

Then from the other direction, down the hall walks the finance guy, followed by a policeman.

“If he doesn’t agree to leave, then, I’ll have to arrest him for trespass,” the Prairie Grove policeman said.

I can’t remember the order of who said what, but the business type, a guy named Tanner, said, “He was heckling.”

Not true. But my laughter must have been less obnoxious than Bowman’s hectoring of Kremer.

He asked me if I was going to leave.

“I haven’t been asked,” I replied.

The Tanner guy then said, “I’m asking you to leave.”

The policeman asked, “Are you going to leave?” as I was trying to take notes.

I said, “Sure.”

Then, I asked the policeman’s name.

He said he’d tell me when we got outside.

I said, “Let’s go” and started down the hall toward the door I had entered.

“You don’t give the orders,” he said sharply.

When we got outside with the business guy, the officer said his name was “Sechho-something-or-other.” He gave me a number: “8210.” I got that.

As I was walking across the parking lot he said, “Don’t come back.”

“Not tonight,” I replied and drove home to type election stories until 4 AM.

And, here is a parting quote from a commenter:

The District 46 School board has lost control. Their own Board Member (Manish Shah) has summed it up best in an interview with the NW Herald reporter Telma Guzman after the public was allowed back into the meeting:

“We act like buffoons in front of the community. We need to work together.”

First I get a parking ticket for dropping my son off at school.

Now, a Prairie Grove policeman has threatened to arrest me to trespassing in a public hall waiting for the not-so-quiet, but top secret, hush, hush District 46 school board members to come out of its executive session. I talked a bit about this yesterday.

I have never been threatened with arrest before.

Let me lay out the background.

It is obvious from Northwest Herald reporter Nick Swedberg’s stories (1 and 2) that District 46 has a lot of strange things going on.

So, at the urging of a district resident I have know for a long time, I decided to attend the meeting held on election eve.

I arrived late and, as usual, took photos of the public officials.

Elected folks probably don’t know how many pictures it takes to get a decent one. One candidate emailed me during the campaign asking if I had put up the worst picture I had taken of him.

I told him it was the best I had obtained.

I’ll write other stories about what happened in the meeting, but, when I entered a woman, who turned out to be a McHenry Marlin Swim Team Mom and who serves on the board, was being talked down to by her colleagues.

Her name is Charlotte Kremer.

She reminds me of Huntley School District 158’s Larry Snow when he first got elected.

All alone against a hostile ruling majority.

This is a small district, but the seats for the audience in the school library were filled.

Kremer was trying to get some items taken off the consent agenda.

And, the board members were hassling her.

I wonder what part of the word “consent” they don’t understand.

Then, a board member named Karen Bowman made conciliatory sounds.

Boy, did she fool me. She seemed reasonable while there was an audience.

I’m sure that’s the public persona she wants to project.

The other members of her clique quickly fell into line with Bowman and Kremer got her discussion, but behind closed doors.

When this open part of the meeting was concluded, the audience cleared out and the board members had a little break. Then, the doors were closed and the real meeting began.

Everyone waiting outside figured it was about the really generous three-year extension on Supt. Fasbender’s contract, plus whatever Kremer wanted to discuss.

First I got some name spellings from the PTO vice president and the lady from Oakwood Hills who told the board that she though Fasbender was the board president because she seemed to be running the meeting. Then, I talked with two of the candidates challenging the incumbent school board members–David Etling and Sharon Rogowski.

I met the Northwest Herald reporter, an intern from the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University.

As I do with virtually all executive sessions, I took some pictures of the wall and door. The Venetian blinds were down, but open, as you can see in the top picture.

Next, I noticed that one could see in through the vertical windows of the two doors.

Superintendent Fasbender was nicely centered in one, so I tried to take her photo. She ducked right, then, left to avoid the camera lens. You can see I got her picture. I can’t figure out why she didn’t want her picture taken.

Bowman, by this time, was browbeating Kremer.

She was vigorously gesturing.

Then, she was shouting at the top of her lungs.

“You’re going to hear from me!” she screamed.

It really startled me until I figured that this 12-year school board member had just completely lost control of herself.

At one point, someone got up to close the Venetian blinds. So, I took a picture of that.

And, then, I noticed there was about a foot of unblocked window between the bottom of the blinds and what I think was a fairly wide chair rail.

The Bowman tirade continued.

That’s when I got this picture I published much too early Wednesday morning.

Bowman saw me tying to take her picture and lunged to the Venetian blind, which was behind an easel. She jerked on one end. The blind collapsed, as you can see in the next photograph.

At some point I started laughing.

Lowering a blind didn’t stop her voice from getting through the window.

The more I heard and saw of this totally unacceptable behavior, the funnier it stuck me.

As I mentioned yesterday, my laugh is pretty piercing.

They probably heard my reaction to the outrageous way Bowman was acting toward her fellow board member.

I have never seen a school or village board meeting so out of control, except maybe in the late 1960’s, when Algonquin Township Supervisor George Starr rapped his gavel so hard so many times that I thought he would break it. (A local Richardson Publications Mike Royko, code named Phoenix, wrote a column filled with variations of “Bam, bam, bam.” It was a long column.)

But Bowman’s completely out-of-control rant certainly takes the cake for the last three decades.

Some administrator, whom I figured was the business manager from the report he gave, walked out of the room across the hall into the gym. He didn’t say a word.

After the previous admonitions about paper use, apparently for at least the second year, from board member Manish Shah, I figured they couldn’t find any paper in the library to cover up the vertical door windows and he has been sent to find some and, maybe some Scotch Tape.

Things quieted down inside and some of those left waiting for the doors to be opened were talking for, I don’t know, 5, 10, 15 minutes.

Then from the other direction, down the hall walks the finance guy, followed by a policeman.

“If he doesn’t agree to leave, then, I’ll have to arrest him for trespass,” the Prairie Grove policeman said.

I can’t remember the order of who said what, but the business type, a guy named Tanner, said, “He was heckling.”

Not true. But my laughter must have been less obnoxious than Bowman’s hectoring of Kremer.

He asked me if I was going to leave.

“I haven’t been asked,” I replied.

The Tanner guy then said, “I’m asking you to leave.”

The policeman asked, “Are you going to leave?” as I was trying to take notes.

I said, “Sure.”

Then, I asked the policeman’s name.

He said he’d tell me when we got outside.

I said, “Let’s go” and started down the hall toward the door I had entered.

“You don’t give the orders,” he said sharply.

When we got outside with the business guy, the officer said his name was “Sechho-something-or-other.” He gave me a number: “8210.” I got that.

As I was walking across the parking lot he said, “Don’t come back.”

“Not tonight,” I replied and drove home to type election stories until 4 AM.

And, here is a parting quote from a commenter:

The District 46 School board has lost control. Their own Board Member (Manish Shah) has summed it up best in an interview with the NW Herald reporter Telma Guzman after the public was allowed back into the meeting:

“We act like buffoons in front of the community. We need to work together.”

There was tension in the Prairie Grove School District 46 library Tuesday as audience members and a lone board member fought awarding of a multi-year contract prior the swearing in of new board members.

And, audience interest was piqued when Superintendent Mary Fasbender announced that the McHenry County State’s Attorney’s Office has filed a Freedom of Information request.

But come to find out, the timing of the contract renewal didn’t make any difference. That’s because three in the ruling six-member clique won re-election.

Running handily ahead in the small school district were Board President Laura Domoto and her running mates Karen Bowman and Linda Rokosik.

Two of their challengers—Sharon Rogowski and David Etling—were in the audience.

Both incumbents and challengers were awaiting the election returns when I left.

Here’s what the final returns looked like when they came in:

Karen Bowman – 613
Linda Rokosik – 610
Laura Domoto – 599
Sharon Rogowski – 467
David Etling – 446
Tara Rand – 367

It was an exciting meeting.

More on that after I get some sleep, including how the board members instructed a principal to call the Prairie Grove Police because I was supposedly “heckling” the board members while they were behind closed doors.

Laughing in the hall outside the secret session as one board member was completely losing her cool, yes.

Even laughing loudly.

Taking pictures through the windows, yes.

Heckling, no.

You won’t believe what happened after the public was excluded from the meeting.

You won’t believe the brow beating that lone minority member Charlotte Kremer took. If she wasn’t physically cringing, I’d be surprised.

Or what 12-year board member Karen Bowman shouted so loud it could be heard in the hall.

These folks make every other public meeting I have ever attended look civil.

Well, maybe it wasn’t as bad as the closing night of Illinois House of Representatives when State Representative Doug Kane tore up his rulebook. Then, Democrat Kane threw the remains at not-yet-Speaker Mike Madigan, who was in the chair for Speaker Bill Redmond. That was right before the very hefty State Representatives Jimmy Taylor and Taylor Pouncey each grabbed one of Madigan’s arms and physically carried him off the podium to the protection of a back room. That was after Madigan gaveling the adjournment of the spring session through without a vote.

Maybe that was worse than what I and other saw Tuesday night.

But, considering the level of decibels coming out of Bowman’s throat and her gestures, I assure you she was not being ladylike.

Not exactly the image she portrays to her constituents, I would imagine.

Here is what Northwest Herald reporter Telma Guzman wrote about the meeting.

OK. I’ll relent.

Here’s a picture of the not-so-gentlewoman Karen Bowman right before she began shouting at the top of her lungs at minority board member Charlotte Kremer.

I wish I had had had a video camera.

Bowman’s completely out-of-control performance would have been at least a local hit on You Tube and could be shown at school board association meetings as how not to act at a public or even a secret meeting.

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Top right is Prairie Grove School Superintendent Mary Fasbender, who got the three-year extension on her contract, worth $450,000, according to the NW Herald. Top right is a picture of Karen Bowman in the open meeting. To her left, below Fasbender is a picture of board President Laura Domoto. The board member who is reading a letter from Prairie Grove Village President Michael Breseman complaining about a fact-challenged, last-minute campaign written by Domoto is Charlotte Kremer.

And, at the bottom, is one of the pictures I took of Karen Bowman right before she started shouting loud enough to be heard on the other side of the hall outside the library.

There was tension in the Prairie Grove School District 46 library Tuesday as audience members and a lone board member fought awarding of a multi-year contract prior the swearing in of new board members.

And, audience interest was piqued when Superintendent Mary Fasbender announced that the McHenry County State’s Attorney’s Office has filed a Freedom of Information request.

But come to find out, the timing of the contract renewal didn’t make any difference. That’s because three in the ruling six-member clique won re-election.

Running handily ahead in the small school district were Board President Laura Domoto and her running mates Karen Bowman and Linda Rokosik.

Two of their challengers—Sharon Rogowski and David Etling—were in the audience.

Both incumbents and challengers were awaiting the election returns when I left.

Here’s what the final returns looked like when they came in:

Karen Bowman – 613
Linda Rokosik – 610
Laura Domoto – 599
Sharon Rogowski – 467
David Etling – 446
Tara Rand – 367

It was an exciting meeting.

More on that after I get some sleep, including how the board members instructed a principal to call the Prairie Grove Police because I was supposedly “heckling” the board members while they were behind closed doors.

Laughing in the hall outside the secret session as one board member was completely losing her cool, yes.

Even laughing loudly.

Taking pictures through the windows, yes.

Heckling, no.

You won’t believe what happened after the public was excluded from the meeting.

You won’t believe the brow beating that lone minority member Charlotte Kremer took. If she wasn’t physically cringing, I’d be surprised.

Or what 12-year board member Karen Bowman shouted so loud it could be heard in the hall.

These folks make every other public meeting I have ever attended look civil.

Well, maybe it wasn’t as bad as the closing night of Illinois House of Representatives when State Representative Doug Kane tore up his rulebook. Then, Democrat Kane threw the remains at not-yet-Speaker Mike Madigan, who was in the chair for Speaker Bill Redmond. That was right before the very hefty State Representatives Jimmy Taylor and Taylor Pouncey each grabbed one of Madigan’s arms and physically carried him off the podium to the protection of a back room. That was after Madigan gaveling the adjournment of the spring session through without a vote.

Maybe that was worse than what I and other saw Tuesday night.

But, considering the level of decibels coming out of Bowman’s throat and her gestures, I assure you she was not being ladylike.

Not exactly the image she portrays to her constituents, I would imagine.

Here is what Northwest Herald reporter Telma Guzman wrote about the meeting.

OK. I’ll relent.

Here’s a picture of the not-so-gentlewoman Karen Bowman right before she began shouting at the top of her lungs at minority board member Charlotte Kremer.

I wish I had had had a video camera.

Bowman’s completely out-of-control performance would have been at least a local hit on You Tube and could be shown at school board association meetings as how not to act at a public or even a secret meeting.

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Top right is Prairie Grove School Superintendent Mary Fasbender, who got the three-year extension on her contract, worth $450,000, according to the NW Herald. Top right is a picture of Karen Bowman in the open meeting. To her left, below Fasbender is a picture of board President Laura Domoto. The board member who is reading a letter from Prairie Grove Village President Michael Breseman complaining about a fact-challenged, last-minute campaign written by Domoto is Charlotte Kremer.

And, at the bottom, is one of the pictures I took of Karen Bowman right before she started shouting loud enough to be heard on the other side of the hall outside the library.