Committee Unanimously Approves End to County Board IMRF Pensions

John Jung chairs the Human Resources Committee.

John Jung chairs the Human Resources Committee.

Every member of the Human Resources Committee voted to abolish Illinois Municipal Retirement Pensions for County Board members starting in December.

Yvonne Barnes

Yvonne Barnes

Outside the meeting members expressed the opinion that this will make the IMRF requirement for work logs go away.

When contacted, IMRF Executive Director Louis Kosiba wrote, “That is under review.”

The action goes beyond the legislation which State Rep. Jack Franks passed in the Illinois House.

The County Board proposal, which was posted on the McHenry County web site, was amended to add language which would deny a pension to “the County-wide Elected Chairman of the County Board” as well.

Sue Draffkorn

Sue Draffkorn

“The public is furious,” Donna Kurtz said.

“This is a wake-up call [for both] local and state levels [of government].

Diane Evertsen

Diane Evertsen

“[Pensions] promote something we don’t want–career politicians.”It (the resolution) should include the Chairman.”

Disagreeing with not giving the County Board Chairman a pension was Don Kopsell. He, nevertheless, voted for the final resolution.

During debate, Yvonne Barnes wanted “to make sure the County Board does not have IMRF.”

Don Kopsell

Don Kopsell

She said she wanted “to pass something that is fair and not subject to challenge.”

“I think the Board has gone through a huge paradigm shift,” Kurtz added.

“It doesn’t matter if it is a part-time or full-time position.

“[They’ve] got to be reined in.

“Let’s not burden the taxpayers.

Donna Kurtz

Donna Kurtz

“We have to change the way we think.

“We can’t afford it anymore.

“We have to be a role model.

“Let it begin with me.

Michael Rein

Michael Rein

“The liability exceeds the amount the average guy can [afford to pay].”

Republican candidate for County Board Chairman Mike Walkup was at the witness table.

He pointed out that the employer portion of pensions in the case of governments “is taxpayer money.”

He wondered about pensions for other countywide officials.

“That’s a question for another day,” Diane Evertsen replied.

Pressing the importance of having a legally tight resolution, Barnes asked whether a separate resolution would be needed for the new position of County Board Chairman.

She asked for a review by “the legal experts.”

She also revealed that “many County Board members have been working on this outside of committee for months and months.”

County Administrator Peter Austin reported that County Board Chairman Joe Gottemoller had insisted that the subject matter go though not only the Human Resources Committee, but the Management Services Committee. It’s meeting is on Monday, June 13th.

Voting for the measure were

  • John Jung
  • Sue Draffkorn
  • Diane Evertsen
  • Don Kopsell
  • Donna Kurtz
  • Michael Rein
  • Yvonne Barnes


Committee Unanimously Approves End to County Board IMRF Pensions — 26 Comments

  1. Am I missing something?

    Andrew Gasser gas been railing against IMRF pensions for the two years he’s served on that board and a good number, if not a vast majority, of board members railed against him for his outspokenness about it.

    Now, some of these same individuals are suddenly in agreement with Gasser?

    And are speaking publicly against the pensions they were protecting until just recently?

    Have all of these individuals been waiving IMRF in their time on the board?

    Why the sudden change of heart?

    I can’t help but wonder if many of these folks have seen the writing on the wall and now want to posture themselves as something they never really were…

  2. But is it retro active?

    Will people who retire today still get these pensions?

  3. Paul, the wind is blowing in a different direction, haven’t you noticed. 🙂

  4. Lets keep the pressure on these people.

    They’ve overtaxed us to the point of revolt.

    And it seems that they’re getting the message (at some levels) now with this change of heart.

  5. Gas bag gasser is a hypocrite and gas bag was nor the first to bring thisbup.

    Gas bag gasser is a weak minded fool who never had an original thought in his life.

    Gas bag gasser is a dangerous loose cannon and you never know who he will take out next.

    Go ask Salgado what she thinks of gas bag gasser.

    Go ask the mayors of Algonquin and Lake in the Hills what they think of gas bag gasser.

    Gas bag gasser offers no solutions, only problems.

    Gas bag, you are a idiot.

    You are not helping anyone with your granstanding arrogant attitude.

  6. Kurtz says “We have to be a role model.

    “Let it begin with me.”???

    Excuse me, I just threw up in my mouth a little…

    The self-proclaimed smartest person on the board makes a running leap to catch the tailboard of the caboose as the train leaves the station and now she portrays herself as a leader?

    A Role model?

    The purveyor of change?

    Does she actually believe herself when she spews this stuff?

  7. Perhaps Andrew Gasser was not on the COMMITTEE!

    So therefore he could NOT VOTE!

  8. ““The public is furious,” Donna Kurtz said.”

    That is an understatement.

    The people are awake and listening.

    There is no problem with Andrew Gasser.

  9. You do realize that the County Board lowered its tax take this year, right?

    Perhaps you should run for school board, where the real money is spent.

  10. The Illinois Supreme Court has made it abundantly clear that one cannot take away pension benefits.

    That having been said, those with eight years in the pension system will be eligible for a small pension when they reach retirement age.

  11. Gas bag gasser is not only a problem but a threat to our community.

    Gas bag gasser is not a Republican but a tea bagging libertarian. Gas bag gasser has proven he cannot work with others to govern.

    Just look at gas bag gasser’s facebook page!

    Who in their right mind posts things like he does.

    He would burn America to the ground if he could.

    Gas bag gasser is anti union.

    Gas bag gasser is a racist Trump supporter.

    Gas bag gasser wants more guns.

    Gas bag gasser is a hypocrite.

    Gas bag gasser is an arrogant grandstanding idiot.

  12. Kurtz has been on the board for how many terms and NOW is saying she is a role model because after a political stunt cause awareness of a practice that lead to public outcry?

    That is really what happened.

    The average person didn’t even know they were paying for a pension- and likely doesn’t know they are paying for healthcare.

    And mileage.

    A huge paradigm shift cause by people finally paying attention.

    The idea that somehow the board brought this about is ludicrous.

    Even is Gasser was talking about- no one else was willing to step away from the trough until the public pressure caused them to and now they are lauding themselves heros for caving to public pressure.


  13. I think Paul is right about having their feet to the fire.

    Still, I can’t complain much.

    Even if some did this to preserve their political careers, they still did the right thing.

    I give them credit.

    I’d rather them do the right thing for the wrong reason than do the wrong thing for the wrong reason.

  14. Dirty, you said:

    “He would burn America to the ground if he could”

    Yikes, you best get a grip!

    Though, the people are over taxed and angry.

    There has to be solutions.

    Not completely convinced this is it.

  15. Thank you to John Jung and the HR Committee for starting the ball rolling.

    This is a very good start and I am quite certain Tina Hill and Management Services will continue to matriculate the ball down the field.

    Hold us accountable.

    Andrew Gasser

  16. Can we make sure the cost savings go back to the taxpayers and not just floated in the budget?

  17. @John, Those are not the Board Members that are on the committee..

    Look at the article and the names.

    Good for the County Board!

    They lowered their budget and got rid of pensions.

    A positive for sure.

  18. Bot hit the nail on the head.

    Any reduction in expense will be used to pay higher wages for union and non-union employees and pay the $25,000 bribe to local 150.

    In addition, Mrs. Miller is still lobbying ‘fast and furious’ for more money to be spent on the Randall Rd. corridor.

    Elimination of IMRF (never should have been started) is window dressing.

    It will not reduce your property tax.

    Now, if we could get union contracts to have union members pay their dues direct to the union instead of having the county collect them, that would be a positive step.

  19. @Live: John posted the names of the board members on the Mgmt Services Committee–the next step of the process is getting it through them.

  20. Dirty Gasser,

    You are a disgrace and should be ashamed of yourself.

    It is obvious that these comments are clearly personal and go beyond work.

    I have been reading these comments for awhile now and it is clear you need some professional help.

    This is not the place to post your crap.

    He won fair and square…. deal with it!

    If you don’t like it…… move.

    I am tired of this!

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