Two Income Tax Hike “No” Voters React to Veto Override

First, this is what State Rep. Allen Skillicorn has to say:

Skillicorn Says ‘Junk Budget’ Fails Illinois

SPRINGFIELD – Following votes to override Gov. Rauner’s vetoes of a tax hike and unsustainable budget, State Representative Allen Skillicorn (R-East Dundee) called it a “junk budget.”

“Overriding the Governor’s vetoes today only stands to make problems worse for Illinoisans,” said Skillicorn.

“Moody’s has indicated this tax increase and budget do not adequately address Illinois’ financial problems, meaning this is a ‘junk budget.’

“Nothing is being done to address our $15 billion in unpaid bills or deal with the more than $100 billion in unfunded pension liabilities.

“All that is accomplished by overriding the vetoes is to ensure that more families will be driven from their homes and our financial problems will grow even worse as our economic growth slows even more.”

Watch Rep. Skillicorn speak against the override on the House floor:

Here is what State Rep. David McSweeney said on the House floor:


Two Income Tax Hike “No” Voters React to Veto Override — 28 Comments

  1. Many thanks to you both.

    Shame on all the others who voted with Madigan.

  2. Another picture of McSweets, please. Tic, tock, tic, tock…

  3. Watched the floor speeches by McSweeney and Andersson yesterday.

    McSweeny still speaks on behalf of those who voted for him.

    Andersson’s speech inflection and words uttered indicate he is operating under the control of those who did not vote for him.

    Is Andersson another Hastert?

  4. To the left of Allen Skillicorn is Republican Mike Fortner who voted for the tax hike.

    The the left and behind Dave McSweeney is former AFSCME member Republican Ms. Terri Bryant who voted for the tax hike.

  5. Mike Fortner – West Chicago office – DuPage County

    Terri Bryant – Mt. Vernon office – Jefferson County

  6. Mike Fortner is also a Professor at Norther Illinois University (NIU).

    Thus he contributes to two public sector pension funds:

    – General Assembly Retirement System (GARS)

    – State University Retirement System (SURS)


    Open the Books Widget

    Salaries for Michael R Fortner

    2015 – $78,163 – State Representative

    2015 – $62,614 – Northern Illinois University

    2015 – $140,777 – Total


    2014 – $76,366 – State Representative

    2014 – $60,185 – Northern Illinois University

    2014 – $136,551 – Total


    Percentage increase, 2014 to 2015: 3%


    Mike Fortner’s previous experience includes:

    – West Chicago Alderman

    – Mayor of West Chicago

    – West Chicago Elementary District 33 school board member

    – work at Fermilab.

    He’s a physicist.

  7. Mr. Fortner is also the Republican Precinct Committeeman for Winfield Township Precinct 1 in DuPage County.

  8. **Time for McHenry County to seek annexation from Wisconsin**

    LOL – you know that WI has higher taxes than IL, right?

    And *definitely* has higher state taxes than IL.

  9. Posters such as ‘shake’ are a problem.

    Make statements without any backup.

    Sales tax comparison?

    Excise tax comparison?

    Income tax comparison?

    Property tax comparison?

    Here is the whole list for Illinois:

    The Taxes We Pay Already

    #1 Air Transportation Taxes (just look at how much you were charged the last time you flew)

    #2 Biodiesel Fuel Taxes

    #3 Building Permit Taxes

    #4 Business Registration Fees

    #5 Capital Gains Taxes

    #6 Cigarette Taxes

    #7 Court Fines (indirect taxes)

    #8 Disposal Fees

    #9 Dog License Taxes

    #10 Drivers License Fees (another form of taxation)

    #11 Employer Health Insurance Mandate Tax

    #12 Employer Medicare Taxes

    #13 Employer Social Security Taxes

    #14 Environmental Fees

    #15 Estate Taxes

    #16 Excise Taxes On Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans

    #17 Federal Corporate Taxes

    #18 Federal Income Taxes

    #19 Federal Unemployment Taxes

    #20 Fishing License Taxes

    #21 Flush Taxes (yes, this actually exists in some areas)

    #22 Food And Beverage License Fees

    #23 Franchise Business Taxes

    #24 Garbage Taxes

    #25 Gasoline Taxes

    #26 Gift Taxes

    #27 Gun Ownership Permits

    #28 Hazardous Material Disposal Fees

    #29 Highway Access Fees

    #30 Hotel Taxes (these are becoming quite large in some areas)

    #31 Hunting License Taxes

    #32 Import Taxes

    #33 Individual Health Insurance Mandate Taxes

    #34 Inheritance Taxes

    #35 Insect Control Hazardous Materials Licenses

    #36 Inspection Fees

    #37 Insurance Premium Taxes

    #38 Interstate User Diesel Fuel Taxes

    #39 Inventory Taxes

    #40 IRA Early Withdrawal Taxes

    #41 IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)

    #42 IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)

    #43 Library Taxes

    #44 License Plate Fees

    #45 Liquor Taxes

    #46 Local Corporate Taxes

    #47 Local Income Taxes

    #48 Local School Taxes

    #49 Local Unemployment Taxes

    #50 Luxury Taxes

    #51 Marriage License Taxes

    #52 Medicare Taxes

    #53 Medicare Tax Surcharge On High Earning Americans Under Obamacare

    #54 Obamacare Individual Mandate Excise Tax (if you don’t buy “qualifying” health insurance under Obamacare you will have to pay an additional tax)

    #55 Obamacare Surtax On Investment Income (a new 3.8% surtax on investment income)

    #56 Parking Meters

    #57 Passport Fees

    #58 Professional Licenses And Fees (another form of taxation)

    #59 Property Taxes

    #60 Real Estate Taxes

    #61 Recreational Vehicle Taxes

    #62 Registration Fees For New Businesses

    #63 Toll Booth Taxes

    #64 Sales Taxes

    #65 Self-Employment Taxes

    #66 Sewer & Water Taxes

    #67 School Taxes

    #68 Septic Permit Taxes

    #69 Service Charge Taxes

    #70 Social Security Taxes

    #71 Special Assessments For Road Repairs Or Construction

    #72 Sports Stadium Taxes

    #73 State Corporate Taxes

    #74 State Income Taxes

    #75 State Park Entrance Fees

    #76 State Unemployment Taxes (SUTA)

    #77 Tanning Taxes (a new Obamacare tax on tanning services)

    #78 Telephone 911 Service Taxes

    #79 Telephone Federal Excise Taxes

    #80 Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Taxes

    #81 Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Taxes

    #82 Telephone State And Local Taxes

    #83 Telephone Universal Access Taxes

    #84 The Alternative Minimum Tax

    #85 Tire Recycling Fees

    #86 Tire Taxes

    #87 Tolls (another form of taxation)

    #88 Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)

    #89 Use Taxes (Out of state purchases, etc.)

    #90 Utility Taxes

    #91 Vehicle Registration Taxes

    #92 Waste Management Taxes

    #93 Water Rights Fees

    #94 Watercraft Registration & Licensing Fees

    #95 Well Permit Fees

    #96 Workers Compensation Taxes

    #97 Zoning Permit Fees

    Chicago Taxes Chicagoans & Visitors Pay In Addition

    Amusement Tax – (7510)

    Amusement Tax – Subscribers to Paid Television Programing – (7511)

    Boat Mooring Tax – (7560)

    Bottled Water Tax – (1904, 1904IN)

    Cigarette Tax – (7506)

    Electricity Infrastructure Maintenance Fee – (7576)

    Electricity Use Tax – (7578)

    Emergency Telephone System Surcharge – Landline – (2908)

    Emergency Telephone System Surcharge – Wireless – (2906)

    Employers’ Expense Tax – (7540)

    Foreign Fire Insurance Tax – (7505)

    Fountain Soft Drink Tax – (7590)

    Gas Use Tax – (7574)

    Ground Transportation Tax – (7595)

    Hotel Accommodations Tax – (7520)

    Liquid Nicotine Product Tax – (7514)

    Liquor Tax – (7573)

    MPEA Airport Departure Tax – (8500)

    Motor Vehicle Lessor Tax – (7575)

    Non-Retail Transfer of Motor Vehicles Tax – (8405)

    Occupation Tax -Natural Gas Distributor and Reseller – (7571)

    Parking Tax – (7530)

    Personal Property Lease Transaction Tax – (7550)

    Real Property Transfer Tax – (7551)(7553)

    Restaurant Tax – (7525)

    Telecommunications Tax – (7501)

    Tire Fee – (BA94)

    Use Tax for Non-Titled Personal Property – (8402B, 8402CO, 8402IN, 8403)

    Use Tax for Titled Personal Property – (8400, 8400R)

    Vehicle Fuel Tax – (7577)

  10. Susan – according to your own chart, WI has higher personal and corporate taxes. And personal income taxes are substantially higher.

    IL has higher sales tax, for the most part.

    IL has a higher average property tax rate, but WI taxes more things.

    Workers comp is basically the same.

  11. IL prop taxes are obscenely higher.

    And property taxes account for a greater chunk of household expenditure, as a function of the asset value being taxed vs. income values/purchases values being taxed.

    Compare 4% in Woodstock to WI.

    Consider that the higher by far RATE is applied to a MUCH higher amount of money every year (unless people earn the price of their home annually.)

    That also goes for sales tax.

    People often use the argument that sales tax is cheaper in IL (in most cases it actually isn’t–but someone always mentions Tennessee).

    But the tax rate is applied to the annual expenditure amount.

    In the case of property taxes, the annual amount taxed at the rate (in this county, around 4%) is around $200,000 home value.

    Most households do not spend $200,000 annually on goods subject to sales tax.

    Finally, income tax. Illinois is a flat tax on income. WI is graduated tax.

    Apply the graduated rate to mean and median household incomes and you will see IL is higher for many more people.

  12. And, you are leaving off the ‘phantom tax’ which looms over all property in Illinois: the debt burden of unfunded pension liability which encumbers all our homes to enormous degree, which will need to be paid through higher property taxes.

    The State limits school debt to 13.8% of EAV (4.6% of homes’ fair market values).

    In Woodstock D200, they managed to use financial instruments which defer interest to get the debt ratio up to about 6.5% of our homes’ fair market value (owed in school debt, including interest).

    That’s just the SCHOOL debt, not the debt of other County taxing bodies which also encumber our homes to some percentage of their current value.

    Now, at Woodstock D200, there is over $200,000,000 of unfunded pension liability attributed to (it is a higher figure if we include OPEB obligations).

    With an EAV of $760,000,000, that adds another ~9% of debt encumbrance on our home full value.

    Wisconsin homes do not owe over 15% of the values of their homes in ‘potential’ taxes to fund debt burdens of just school portion of taxing bodies.

    Perhaps you could calculate the additional debt encumbrance here per household attributed to Countywide debt like at MCCD, unfunded pension obligations for police, fire&rescue,library and other public employees?

  13. How about a sunshine blog tax – (666)? This would surely balance the budget. Tic, tock, tic, tock…

  14. Learned tonight that my wife’s former assistant is moving from Bollingbrook to Kenosha County.

    She’ll still have to pay Illinois income taxes because she will still be working here, but her real estate taxes will be a lot lower.

  15. I believe Illinois and Wisconsin have a reciprocity agreement for income taxes.

    Wisconsin has higher marginal rates, but Illinois doesn’t allow for a personal exemption and is a lot stingier with deductions, so it’s hard to say where she’d be better off paying income taxes.

  16. Currently the biggest difference between WI and IL governments is:

    Illinois keeps digging the hole of never ending tax increases while Wisconsin has stopped digging and is starting to reverse the cycle – first step = rein in the public sector unions.

    WI government shows signs of hope while Illinois continues to sow the seeds of despair.

    My question is why?

    Is the goal to stop the expansion of pavement and roof tops to preserve the land for feeding the world (ignore the long term impact of glyphosate)?

    Is it all part of Agenda 21?

  17. When I see Llavona’s name on posts … I skip them!

    So, in effect, I’m just like so many of his former pupils’ attitudes toward his high school ‘classes’!

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