The Huntley Library Bond Issue Debate

The Library Board meets tonight at 5:30.

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The following questions were asked of Huntley Library Board Frank Novak:

1) Why do we need a library twice the size of what we have now when utilization is down 30% and likely to continue?

2) Why is the cost over $400 per square foot when new commercial space only costs around $125 per square foot and half of the money for the library is only remodeling, which should cost even less?

3) Why is 30% of the library’s circulation DVDs? How does that benefit the public? Why compete with RedBox and NetFlix?

Here is the reply from Library Director Frank Novak:

Here are responses to the questions:

1) Why do we need a library twice the size of what we have now when utilization is down 30% and likely to continue?

A: The Huntley Area Public Library was outgrown quite a while ago. In fact, it was probably too small not long after it was built. The library passed a referendum in April of 1997 to build the current facility and grand opening for the new library was in July of 1999. The first house sale in the Sun City development was closed in April of 1999. After that, the Huntley area’s population exploded.

We are currently operating in a building where the Children’s Department (with an occupancy limit of 12 people, including staff) and the library’s only program room are in trailers. Those trailers are at end-of-life. Once the trailers are gone, the library will have to move those services back into the original library building.

The new building program was community-driven.

The library held meetings in 2018 with a Core Planning Group of people from the community to provide guidance for the size and design.

The library also had a Citizen Task Force of additional citizens who attended multiple meetings are provided recommendations to the library board related to the amount to spend on the project, its size, and its design.

Additionally, the library held a focus group of Sun City residents and it held three community discussion meetings for citizens to share their opinions about the project and provide input on the design.

The library’s architects attended each of these meetings in order to directly interact with our community members.

Staff members and library trustees also offered input, but not until after the community did.

Furthermore, the library board members have unanimously supported this project from the beginning.

Libraries are used differently today than they were fifteen or twenty years ago.

We do far more programming, tech training, job training, and so on, than in the past.

People come to the library to use our high-speed Wi-Fi connection without ever checking out any items.

Still others use the library’s digital collections both in-library and from their own homes.

People use the library for business purposes.

Tutors meet with their students here.

Community groups use the library’s single program room continually.

Students come to collaborate on school work after the school libraries have closed, and so on.

2) Why is the cost over $400 per square foot when new commercial space only costs around $125 per square foot and half of the money for the library is only remodeling, which should cost even less?

A: Here are some of my initial points about the square footage cost figures:

1) library buildings are different from other buildings (especially residential or light commercial) in that they are designed to accommodate heavy public traffic and provide myriad experiences/functions

2) the cost includes furniture and equipment

3) there is sitework that needs to be done including dealing with water retention matters and adding parking

4) we have to pay Prevailing Wage for the project which (in my opinion) increases our overall costs quite a bit

5) we are including escalation costs

6) we are factoring in bond rate increases

7) we are including a design and construction contingency in the overall cost

Then, I specifically asked our architects and cost estimator about the square footage cost figures.

Here’s what they had to say:

The library project is responsibly envisioned to current standards for public libraries in IL and in the Huntley area.

The estimates provided are based on that vision and incorporate market-based pricing for recently completed library projects, and current similar library public projects.

The market (the final bids) ultimately dictates the final pricing of any project, these are estimates based on actual pricing and bids the construction manager sees in the market as well as factors in historical cost data for public sector projects in the area.

The total cost per SF also includes the design and physical construction of the project from start to completion, and includes the fees to consultants for their work.

Often times, cost per SF numbers people read about do not include design and construction.

The total cost per SF also includes all of the anticipated “soft costs” i.e., it’s all-inclusive, completely comprehensive, so there is not more money needed to finalize the project.

Cost per sf between projects and building types is always apples and oranges.

A plan was developed and a professional independent estimated generated from that plan.

The estimate was based on a detailed take off all components and is inclusive of all costs so we do not need to go back to ask for more money because something was left out.

Cost per sf does not provide an explanation of the actual work.

For example the cost to replace an outside chiller is a cost that does not corollate to sf being it is outside of the sf of the building footprint.

The library is designed around a similar level of interior and exterior finishes as the existing library so the building addition appears to be harmonious with existing library minus a two story volume.

This project will be publicly bid so the community can be assured they are getting a fair price for the project.

3) Why is 30% of the library’s circulation DVDs? How does that benefit the public? Why compete with RedBox and NetFlix?

A: The fact that 30% of the library’s circulation is DVDs, by itself, answers the question about benefit to the public.

Obviously, quite a few people value those items in our collection.

The library also has streaming movies and music available to the public.

Not everything in a library needs to have value to everyone for every reason.

As a public library, we meet the needs of the public at-large, not just one subset.

The library has been “competing” with other business interests for years.

This is nothing new.

In addition to being a primary source of information and services for our community, we support and supplement what is commercially available to the community. And we will continue to do so.

As technologies change, so will the library.

It is also important to mention that we, as a community, can afford more collectively than we can individually.

Can people buy books elsewhere or pay for materials elsewhere?

Of course, but there are many folks who recognize the value of economies of scale that the public library provides by offering materials, programs, and services that do not have to be purchased for each individual, each time those materials, programs, or services are used.


Comments

The Huntley Library Bond Issue Debate — 5 Comments

  1. MORE NEW PROPERTY TAXES ?

    It is abundantly clear that the tax and spend cleptocrats in Huntley just don’t get it.

    Many homes for sale currently in Huntley and more to come as residents are driven out by ever increasing outrageous and confiscatory property taxes imposed upon home owners while property values continue to decline year after year.

    To the Huntley Library Board Members:

    We will not be fooled by your “why we must spend more tax dollars” propaganda.

    Try doing more with less as the rest of us are forced to do.

  2. Cal, please join me at the next Huntley Library meeting on January 21st at 6 pm (at our request, they are having an additional question/answer session).

    You might want to print this out regarding the Geneva IL 57,000 sq ft project (they have theirs online).

    Their Architecture firm broke it down:

    GENEVA PUBLIC LIBRARY – NEW BUILDING AT 6TH STREET
    OPINION OF PROBABLE COST – SCHEMATIC DESIGN – December 20, 2016 https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/21c078_638623d7422441fab57222378090755b.pdf

    I wonder why Huntley hasn’t provided the same thing (as this type of document answers most of my questions).

    So, lets go over some things…. their responses are in quotes of which my question(s) are after.

    “The library is designed around a similar level of interior and exterior finishes as the existing library so the building addition appears to be harmonious with existing library minus a two story volume.”

    Was there a more inexpensive solution looked at or are aesthetics (I ask as couldn’t a two story addition give library patrons additional space – with stairs and an elevator for ADA ingress/egress purposes?

    “Often times, cost per SF numbers people read about do not include design and construction.”

    Really? So regarding Willowcreek’s building construction total budget does not account for design and construction and other ancillary costs?

    The last I checked, they have no additional costs budgeted for (the only true issue regarding differences are aesthetics, additional mechanical & furniture & inside layout, AND the Prevailing Wage act – which Churches don’t deal with, but I WILL address below).

    “The estimates provided are based on that vision and incorporate market-based pricing for recently completed library projects, and current similar library public projects.”

    Really? Which ones? (For example… Geneva Illinois’ project plan/scope/plan budget is online and their costs are lower than Huntley’s).

    “Cost per sf does not provide an explanation of the actual work.” and “The total cost per SF also includes all of the anticipated “soft costs” i.e., it’s all-inclusive, completely comprehensive, so there is not more money needed to finalize the project.”

    And commercial buildings construction costs don’t?

    Sq Ft cost is far more than just the initial sq. footage, it includes all costs tied into that square footage including walls/mechanicals/electrical/labor,eyc.

    I note that they stated in the press that the cost was $10.9 million for the addition/renovation and the other $1.5 million was for other costs (I can only assume working with setbacks, parking, landscaping, and cost of the actual bond).

    I have YET to see thee original bid specifications and if alternatives were presented.

    Is there a backup plan should this bond vote fail?

    “820 ILCS 130/ Prevailing Wage Act.” Ok, lets get into this.

    In 2014, there was a report by Anderson Economic Group – Illinois’ Prevailing Wage Law and the Cost of Education Construction

    Prepared by: Anderson Economic Group, LLC Jason Horwitz, Consultant

    Commissioned by: Associated Builders and Contractors, Illinois Chapter in partnership with:

    Illinois Association of School Boards / Illinois Black Chamber of Commerce / Illinois Chamber of Commerce /

    Illinois Policy Institute (the link to this report can be googled).

    1. We estimate that each year $2.9 billion in education construction expenditures are subject to Illinois’ prevailing wage law. On average state and local governments in Illinois spend $2.9 billion on the construction and repair of public K-12 schools, community colleges, and public higher education institutions each year. From 2002 through 2011 this amounted to over $29 billion in expenditures (after adjusting for inflation). Approximately $23 billion of these expenditures were spent by Illinois school districts on construction at K-12 schools. The remaining $6 billion were spent by public universities and community colleges.

    2. In the absence of the state’s prevailing wage law, we estimate that Illinois could have saved $158 million on average each of the past ten years. We estimate that of the $158 million in annual savings, $124 million would have been realized by K-12 schools, and $34 million by community colleges and public universities. From 2002 to 2011, state and local governments could have saved an estimated $1.6 billion.

    So essentially, on a yearly basis.

    The total costs to the State of Illinois was 2.9 Billion.

    Of that, 158 million was the estimated savings if not using the prevailing wage act.

    So one can make certain assumptions from these figures: When one takes into account the IL Prevailing Age Act… that increased costs to those organization by about 5,45 %

    Here is the link to the study: https://www.andersoneconomicgroup.com/Portals/0/AEG_ABCIL_PrevailingWage_FINAL.pdf

  3. How is it that Barnes & Noble can build a store filled with bookshelves for around $125 a square foot but the Huntley Library has special, expensive needs because they have bookshelves?

    And how is that the public taking DVDs out means lending DVDs is justified?

    If the library loaned cement mixers free, people would take advantage of it, but that wouldn’t make it a justifiable governmental expenditure nor appropriate for a library.

    Libraries are supposed to be places of LEARNING.

    On the side of the Boston Public Library, the first tax supported municipal library in the nation, it says:

    “The Commonwealth requires the education of the people as the safeguard order and liberty.”

    That’s the justification for spending tax dollars on a library!

    Not competing with RedBox and NetFlix by lending copies of XMen Apocalypse.

  4. The library board wants the largest library building period.

    They do not care that it is not used sufficiently now, nor are they concerned about over taxed taxpayers.

    WE MUST HAVE THE LARGEST, don’t let Algonquin get ahead of us.

    The library board runs the library like the democrats run Illinois

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