Discussing Failure to Serve a Subpoena

The Northwest Herald, commenter “Nob,” a/k/a Robin Mohr, linked to a story about Algonquin Township Road Commissioner Andrew Gasser’s not accepting service for a court subpoena.

Illinois Leaks’ Kirk Allen made this reply:

Robin, you are correct it was not about the right to unionize but about the way it was done.

I should have clarified that better.

You claim the terminations was for political gain – Oh do tell what political gain was there?

You say no legal cause.

Others know otherwise.

Time will tell.

“No Dog’s waltzing will change the fact the Judge has ruled in favor of the union and the three fired.”

Once again, you just can’t resist with the ongoing lie that the judge ruled in favor of the three fired.

The case, as you KNOW was not about those three getting fired.

Please show the world where the judge ruled in favor of the three fired.

The time and place for their termination are at arbitration.

I believe it was just last month that they finally got to a point where such arbitration can be had.

Stephen, how many court cases have you been involved in or followed?

Avoiding service, if that is what was actually done, is done for a list of reasons and every process server out there knows how those games are played and lawyers know why.

Avoiding service sets the clock back.

It buys time for reasons most have no clue of.

While the paper and others make a mountain out of ONE summons not getting served on Andrew and his attorney not accepting service, they IGNORED the fact Kelly REFUSED to accept service for Lutzow.

Why is it a big deal for Hanlon to not accept and ok for Kelly to not accept service?

The one thing I can’t wait to happen is the WHOLE truth to come out to prove to everyone that has said there was no cause that there actually was cause.

Will that cause meet the level of termination?

Some attorneys have told me 60/40 yes, others have said 70/30 yes.

Regardless of the final outcome, there are clearly things many of you are not aware of.


Comments

Discussing Failure to Serve a Subpoena — 15 Comments

  1. So are we to glean that it’s ok to ignore a summons if you have an 20/80 chance at winning a lawsuit?

    I thought the watchdogs were about good government…… Gasser sure isn’t part of that mold.

  2. so kirk once again pretends to ‘have the scoop’ on the firing of three employees.

    You must have been supervising these guys along with gasser.

    You get more out there every time I read your stuff.

    You and roger stone should be cohost on Info Wars.

    You think it’s okay for gasser to run because he might win a case.

    You are one sorry American.

  3. Anti township, nepotism, and Miller crowd love Gasser for firing the three.

    That political capital has given him the support to do the other nonsense he’s been up to.

    Most people hate lawyers and lawsuits, yet there are those who support Gasser spending on lawsuits no matter what the cost in tax $$$$$ and results seem not to matter either.

    The IL Labor board ruled in favor or the three fired, and the Judge reaffirmed the Labor boards ruling.

    Instead of more potential false accusations we know and love you for, type out the facts about the firings right here for all to see Kirk, and throw in some case law if need be.

  4. I believe it was just last month that they finally got to a point where such arbitration can be had.

    I believe the Judge ordered arbitration in Oct, Gasser has been dodging the courts ever since.

    Hanlon Gasser could of settled this issue some where around a year ago, but then they’d have to admit defeat wouldn’t they.

  5. Kirk Allen said:

    “Others know otherwise.”

    “Time will tell.”

    “The one thing I can’t wait to happen is the WHOLE truth to come out to prove to everyone that has said there was no cause that there actually was cause.”

    “Will that cause meet the level of termination?”

    “Some attorneys have told me 60/40 yes, others have said 70/30 yes.”

    “Regardless of the final outcome, there are clearly things many of you are not aware of.”

    Then he ends it with:

    “Not pretending to have any scoop at all”

    LMAO

  6. Stephen, how many court cases have you been involved in or followed?

    What does that matter.

    Regardless of the final outcome, there are clearly things many of you are not aware of.

    The why doesn’t Gasser present his case?

    “Why is it a big deal for Hanlon to not accept and ok for Kelly to not accept service?”

    Don’t care about Hanlon or Kelly not accepting service.

    You brought it up.

    I care about Gasser being a coward and not accepting service by running out the back door.

    All this avoidance keeps costing the taxpayers money.

    You yourself wrote an article about Kelly wasting taxpayers money, why not the same treatment for Gasser and Hanlon.

    The township didn’t pay you $55,000.

    the road district did.

    What happened to integrity and honor?

    If he has a case why is he avoiding presenting it?

    “The one thing I can’t wait to happen is the WHOLE truth to come out to prove to everyone that has said there was no cause that there actually was cause.” so says you and your mythical attorneys.

    I guess you have already tried it?

    they may have well come up with cause after the fact.

    It was still political payback. Just like Miller signing the agreement because he knew how Gasser would react.

    Another typical circle jerk response in support of the incompetent Gasser.

  7. Robin you once again just can’t seem to get it right.

    I did not end with “Not pretending to have any scoop at all”

    I ended with “Nor have I said it was ok to avoid service.”

    One day you will understand I don’t pretend.

    Stephen, it matters because those who have been through a lot of cases have a broader understanding of the multiple reasons for avoiding service.

    How did avoiding service cost the taxpayer?

    There were no funds expended for avoiding service if that is what really happened.

    No, the Road District DID NOT pay.

    We had to take legal action to force the bank to pay because the board refused to do their job.

    I am surprised so many have yet to figure out why a delay could be justified.

    This matter is going to the Appellate court.

    That takes time.

    A ruling from that court, if it goes one way would mean there would be no arbitration.

    So why rush to arbitration when the courts might find no such arbitration is necessary?

    Why are so many willing to ignore the proper judicial system and rush into something that may not be necessary?

  8. No, the Road District DID NOT pay. Yes they did.

    “We had to take legal action to force the bank to pay because the board refused to do their job.”

    The money came from the road district funds. Who are you crappin.

    You just answered your own question.

    The taxpayers lose because he has not gone to arbitration which was ordered by the court.

    Now there will be another rule to show cause, more legal fees and still has to go to arbitration, ruled by the judge.

    “Why are so many willing to ignore the proper judicial system and rush into something that may not be necessary?” the judge ordered arbitration.

    And I clerked in a law office for three years. so I know the bullshit you spew is rhetoric and a twisting of words. ie. the circle jerk

  9. “Nor have I said it was ok to avoid service” but yet you argue there are reasons for Gassser to do it. ie. the circle jerk

  10. I feel sorry of Mr. Allen having to try and communicate with dunces.

  11. Stephen, three years clerking and you ask the questions you do?

    While you demand technichaly precise wording on one side, it’s a “circle jerk” when it’s used in arguments against you opinion.

    I argued there are reasons service is avoided.

    I did not argue, as you falsely claimed, Gasser has reasons to avoid.

    There might be, but my point, which went over your three year clerk experience, was there are reasons to avoid.

    You dont see any, that is telling.

  12. Pokorny, when you get sued, will you avoid service, too?

    I feel I must do it to show you the fool, again.

    Please quit demonstrating what an imbecile you are with your juvenile comments.

    The nob is a moron.

    We all know that.

    But she can’t help it.

    You can.

    Grow up please.

    Mr. Allen, I applaud your patience, drive and intelligence in trying to wake up the tax slaves of McHenry County.

  13. As I watch kirk and leaks blindly defend an incompetent politician, I am reminded of OJ’s white Bronco slow chase down a California Expressway.

    I just can’t decide if kirk is OJ or Al Cowlings.

    Either way it’s a sad show.

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