From the WIND morning email:
I have no idea how the issue was framed, but this election result is not good news for Pro-Lifers.
Probably horror stories of insest and rapists.
The question I have is whether Republicans in Illinois are smart enough to frame the issue from the other end of the spectrum–do people really think there should be abortion until the day before birth?
I doubt people do and I doubt Illinois Republicans are smart enough to frame the issue from that perspective.
The only Republican candidate I have seen willing to do so was David McSweeney when Dee Beaubien ran against him as an Independent in 2012.
Yes, Kansas just voted 59% to pretend that there is an abortion right in their constitution as their supreme court said in 2015.
Part of this was confusing language that was there deliberately.
“Moderate” Republicans in Kansas are tired of Kris Kobach (who won the Attorney General primary) types ruining their hold on the party.
They want to continue to claim Kobach types are “extremists” who must be defeated in the primary so the Democrats won’t win.
The instinct of the average voter is to vote no on anything that they don’t fully understand.
The whole referendum was a staged event, just like the Supreme Court finally getting rid of Roe as a scrap to conservatives angry over their failure to stop the 2020 election steal.
Now we have an excuse for another elections steal—despite polling otherwise, abortion will be the issue to save the Dems in the fall.
I wonder if there was a statewide mailing from any of the “send us money and all will be well” Washington based D.C. pro-life groups explaining what was involved in this referendum despite the confusing language.
You can be sure the other side had plenty of money to get their views out (“abortion on demand is really the moderate position”).
No restrictions, no parental notice and fully tax funded is not a winner this fall among real voters.
While the results are surprising, why does it matter what Kansas has done?
If they want to put abortion in their constitution, they can.
That’s the entire point, each state should make its own decisions since the US Constitution is silent on this issue.
I don’t have to agree with what different states do, I’m just happy to be following the constitution again, at least a little tiny bit.
I agree with Because.
There is absolutely NOTHING in the US Constitution that determines if abortion is legal or illegal CONSTITUTIONALLY.
Thus, we go to the 10th Amendment of the US Constitution: that which is not clearly articulated in the US Constitution shall be determined by the States.
That’s the beauty of the US Constitution and how destructive the Roe v Wade decision was to the Constitution and the Supreme Court (and the nomination process).
Let Kansas decide the way the Kansas citizenry WANTS for its state.
If you don’t like it, leave Kansas.
As an aside: Dee Beaubien is a vile, unhappy, miserable human being who is totally in support of legalization of ripping an unborn child out of the womb – piece by piece – at any time during pregnancy.
In 2019, The Kansas Supreme Court issued a decision that stated that the right to an abortion was guaranteed by the Kansas Constitution. That decision ignored a great deal of precedent, and was a far greater intellectual reach than Roe v Wade.
The Kansas Supreme Court serves as a cautionary tale for those who do not like the Illinois system of electing Supreme Court Justices.
When a vacancy occurs on the Court, a merit commission forwards nominees to the Governor who selects a new Justice from the group of nominees.
The Justice later has to run for retention, but that is usually just a formality.
Kansas is normally considered to be a fairly red state, but five out of the seven Justices currently serving on the Kansas Supreme Court are Democrats.
Having a govenror appoint judges merely allows him or her to have more influence with lawyer-legislators.
“In 2019, The Kansas Supreme Court issued a decision that stated that the right to an abortion was guaranteed by the Kansas Constitution”
This is an issue for the citizens of Kansas to work out. Apparently they are happy with that decision. Obviously getting rid of Roe was a huge step in the right direction, but wow do we have some work left to do.
And I mean work regarding actually understanding how our constitution is supposed to work.
I lived in Kansas for a while. It’s a pretty conservative state.
If you took a poll of Kansans, you would probably find that a majority of the people are not happy with that 2019 Supreme Court decision.
Many voters were confused about the recent referendum, and voters are are also naturally leery of amending constitutions.
Deep red Mississippi overwhelmingly rejected a “Personhood” constitutional amendment in 2011 despite the electorate being solidly pro-life.
On a federal level, polls have shown solid support for retaining Roe v Wade while also showing solid support for increasing abortion restrictions.
It’s a combination of a messaging problem and a natural fear of change/unintended consequences.
Dee Beaubien was a hideous monstrosity.
Noble is right. The wording was weird.
How many people would vote to hang Biden? 55%?
Shall the following be adopted?
§ 22. Regulation of abortion. Because Kansans value both women and children, the constitution of the state of Kansas does not require government funding of abortion and does not create or secure a right to abortion. To the extent permitted by the constitution of the United States, the people, through their elected state representatives and state senators, may pass laws regarding abortion, including, but not limited to, laws that account for circumstances of pregnancy resulting from rape or incest, or circumstances of necessity to save the life of the mother.
The last sentence is doom.
Poorly worded.
However, this doesn’t effect Illinois because it is now a state’s rights issue.
Control what you can control.
Gasser rocks!
He upended the Miller kleptocracy & idiocracy!
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