GOP Debate Run-Up

Posted on by August 18, 2023

When a candidate is leading the field by 50 percentage points, why would he or she debate.

Perhaps laying that groundwork is what this tweet from former President Donald Trump is about:

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GOP Debate Run-Up — 75 Comments

  1. I’m a hard R Republican voter.

    I do not need Trump to debate – I’ve seen dozens of his debates.

    I know where he stands and how he handles the debate.

    He’s very entertaining – so from a viewership/enjoyment issue I’d love him in the debate.

    But the fact is this: NO ONE will gain insight into Donald Trump one way or the other if he’s present at the debate.

    Let’ not pretend othewise.

    Those who criticize him for not being there are LIARS AND POLITICAL FRAUDS…and they know they’re just using that as a phony argument to bash him.

    So why should Trump avoid the debate?

    Because Fox will try to trip him up and GOONS like Christie and Pence are Swamp Creature hacks who are in the race as representitives of the Swamp whose sole goal is to attack Trump.

    When that’s the reality, Trump would be a fool to participate.

  2. I think you are hard R Retarded.

    I do agree that it is a losing proposition for him to appear, better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

  3. “POOP”: so, you’re arguing that you haven’t heard enough about Donald Tump and his position on the issues and you’d like to see where he stands in comparison to the other candidates so you can make an informed choice on Donald Trump.

    Hmmm?

    I say you’re a lying pack of shit. You’re an anti-Trumper and you want to create that illusion. Phony fraud loser – that’s what you are.

  4. CLM – I second your comment in response to tRiGGeReD Fecalcorn, and further -TRUMP IS GOD!!!

  6. FOX is looking for ratings ala RINO Ronna Romney which put the first 2 debates with FOX. Rumblings in the ether are Trump will do a live interview with Tucker at the same time as the debate.

    I bet Avelar will be licking his big screen every time DeSantis answers a question or makes a comment because we know he has full blown TDS like a typical RINO.

  7. I say that you, CLM, and HonestAbe, and the rest, are making excuses for him. Any person, idea, institution, deserves scrutiny, comparison and audit. How will the general public be able to make an apples to apples comparison if the other candidates speak and Trump stands mute, only posturing superiority. COME DOWN FROM YOUR IVORY TOWER, COWARD. Otherwise you are ultimately undemocratic and unamerican, because you will not elevate anyone to his level. You are effectively declaring him untouchable, unbeatable. Why even bother to have another election ever if he exists in the world??

    Nay, I do not argue that I haven’t heard enough about Donald Trump and his positions. I think the rest of the republicans in the nation haven’t. But I do understand the reticence to have him debate. After all, the last election that had him debating did find him losing. We wouldn’t want to risk that happening again would we?

  8. MAGAMinds changed by refusing debate = 0.

    Problem is, he needs approval beyond the MAGAMind to win, thus the potential of persuading the undecided = <0. So, slightly negative, but not necessarily a bad gambit at this stage.

    Were he to show though, he risks greater than a mildly negative outcome. This is playing defense.

    Now why would he need to do that if he is GOD? Sounds like a false god.

  9. First off Trump can’t debate. He would lose to almost any of the other candidates.

    Trumps only position is this election is I’m a victim, they stole my destiny and build the wall, that he couldn’t accomplish in his prior term. The deplorables eat that crap up. Clear the swamp, really, so he can bring in his.

    Abram, “tRiGGeReD” is that the only thing you can ever come up with, shows what kind of morons support Trump.

  11. The trolling is heavy with Porkboy today. LOL. He’s not as angry so he must have found his gerbil that escaped.

  12. “FOX is looking for ratings..”

    As is any network that will host debates. Ratings means eyeballs, and only NOW, TRumpty’s being shy and retiring? Duh. And those debates that will happen, will happen on a major network regardless, and none of them are friendly. Duh again.

    The people that tRumpty’s got to persuade AREN’T going to choose to watch Tucker Carlson.

  13. Poop. Why give FOX the rating. Brett Baeir is moderating with Martha McCallum. You know the same 2 people that called AZ for Biden with only 1% of the vote in and the polls still open?

    Going to a FOX run debate with these 2 when we all know the owners the Murdochs are in the tank for unlikable DeSantis and these 2 get paychecks from the Murdochs is a bad move. It’ll turn into another Chris Wallace debacle where Trump was debating Biden and him for the presidency.

    In short. FOX is antiTrump

  14. Avelar avelar avelar….*poof!* JT appears.

    Every time a-velar sings, our JT licks his screen.

  15. “The trolling is heavy with Porkboy today.” seriously , you are on here day and night , and still have nothing to say. You are the Jumbo Troll.
    Avelar says hi.
    81M Hah

  16. “You know the same 2 people that called AZ for Biden with only 1% of the vote in and the polls still open?”

    JT and the screen-lickers like to belabor this. What was the negative result? Nationally, except for Hawaii, polls were closed. In the end, the FOX “decision desk” or whatever, was correct.

    So what’s your point?

  17. I just wanted to check in with everybody to make sure I’m on the level. Is it still 2020? Has the landscape changed at all in the last few years? Is he a few years older? Has he lost his fastball? If no one takes him for a test drive then no one knows, right??

    Last I heard he was going to present a, “Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT” [we all know he has the largest, most complex, most detailed, and most irrefutable reports], but has shied away from that grandiose spectacle. If he won’t deliver on that iron-clad, bullet-proof evidence that would crush, mock and destroy those against him how could you still believe that he is the best in his field?

  18. “In short. FOX is antiTrump.”

    In short, one could say that about every network, every venue. So are you going to sulk, or are you going to power through?

    It looks like he’s going to play the victim card.

  19. In short. FOX is antiTrump

    That’s the point, shithead. The debate is a stress-test, it is a shake-out run. Do you jump on your bike every summer right after you take it out of the shed, or do you look it over and finger-test the nuts? He needs to overcome the scrutiny. Surprising that he gets such a waive-through from the people that complain about children getting “participation” trophies. Personally, when I’m voting anyone that doesn’t provide statements or answers to voting group questionnaires, or doesn’t participate in debates in panels is immediately disqualified. Holding court own your own private platform doesn’t rise to the BAR.

  20. I think tRumpty had Bobby Q’s manifesto that was presented at Bobby’s Niles fundraiser all collated, bound and ready to go.

    So, no debate.

    No Irrefutable Proof.

    Just a friendly chat with a friendly host and friendly audience. Who are all voting for him anyway, and yet aren’t enough to win.

  21. I’d like to see tRump ask Carlson if he has Carlson’s vote. That would be fun.

  22. “Do you jump on your bike every summer right after you take it out of the shed, or do you look it over and finger-test the nuts..”

    Same analogy on a sailboat. Or any boat. Trump’s been in dry dock for a while. If he debates, this could happen:

    https://youtu.be/DOV_VRyageg

  23. Hate Trump or love Trump….fine.
    But don’t pretend that the “voters need to hear what Trump has to say”.
    No politician in the history of the USA is better known than Trump.

    The ONE candidate in American history who is NOT necessary to have at a debate is Donald Trump.

    The general election – I would agree he has to debate. The Primaries? No way; you’re a liar if you think Trump has to be present. Whether you love or hate him, that is FACT.

  26. “But don’t pretend that the “voters need to hear what Trump has to say”.”

    Actually, they do. As Poop points out, time has gone by, issues and arguments are not all the same.

    In fact, if his existential shtick remains unchanged, then he loses. His existential shtick is what lost his re-election.

    So, no exciting vista of a new and exciting future. Just a rerun. At least his basement campaign backdrop will be glitzier.

  27. “No politician in the history of the USA is better known than Trump.”

    You’re right, that’s how he lost.

  29. Thank you Citizen Editor. If it comes from Truth Social it is not a Tweet [or an X now, I guess?], it is a TRUTH. It can’t even be argued against, it is unassailable.

  30. “Christie is justified too, given Kushner, Trump’s jew son in law got Trumpy to fire Christie from the transition team even before the inauguration.”

    Wow. Just like Biden and Hunter and Burisma. Huh.

  32. Wow. Alot of triggered trolls with extreme TDS on this thread. It’s funny captain TDS the purveyor of truth hides behind his firewall in his safe space

  33. And Poop. Did you not see 2000 Mules and the corruption funded by Zuckerjew and coordinated by gap tooth Stacy Abraham’s and the mules plus the videos of ballot double counting in Fulton County and you don’t think that’s irrefutable proof I think your cognitive dissonance is preventing you from seeing the truth.

  35. No, I did not. I’m sure they could probably take their “evidence” to a number of authoritative bodies to be verified, I’m not one of such.

  36. Trump is now doing a live stream with Tucker during the MKE debates. LOFL. You guys watch a bunch of losers bloviate on stage who barely have a heartbeat. Hopefully Tucker does a Mystery Science Theater broadcast where Trump rips their answers apart. Their all running on Trump’s platform.

  37. “…and you don’t think that’s irrefutable proof…”

    Well, apparently tRumpty doesn’t think so either. I guess that’s why he was about to introduce his copies of Bobby Q’s manifesto.

  38. “I’m sure they could probably take their “evidence” to a number of authoritative bodies to be verified…”

    They didn’t because they didn’t have actual evidence. All they have is assertion.

  39. 😮 He’s running programming opposite the debates!!?? Wow, he flat out refuses to participate in established forums and seeks to divide and splinter the audience so they are unable to compare him directly against his competitors. If you asked me, that doesn’t sound like someone that has a lot of confidence in their product. SAD, because it makes him a pretty poor con-man.

    Hopefully Tucker does a Mystery Science Theater broadcast where Trump rips their answers apart.

    HAHAHAHAHHAHALOLOLOLOLLLO!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Sounds kinda like a debate, only one person doesn’t show up for the debate at all and then gets to shit on everyone else’s performance unchallenged!! LLLOOOFFFLLL!!!

    Again, he’s got strong tactics, I can’t fault him there. Why bring a knife to a knife fight when you can just not show up at all and call the opponent a pussy???!!!!

  40. Bobby Piton lives rent free in Monk’s head. Wasn’t that Seth Keshel with him at Gilatis too sport. You sure are obsessed with Q. People that don’t have the brain power to understand it just mock. Time for another bong hit sport. Is creepy Avelar taking you to church this weekend-? You can discuss QAnon and conspiracy theories after services. TDS lives on. LOL

  41. Gee, I wonder if Marc Avelar is still against Laura Loomer, you know the person that schooled Avelar on Twitter, and also schooled Bill Mitchell on TimCast. Don’t worry, Avelar/Lopez is a conservative wannabe. Accept your role as a RINO Marc. You fit in well there. LOL

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1692564310298427618

  43. Here you go Marc Avelar / John Lopez. Show us where Mitchell won? Give us some time stamps. I’m sure you’ll do it behind that safe space firewall you like to hide behind. It’s 2hrs so Monk will need at least 10 bongs to get through it.

    https://youtu.be/VuUNTeRjp1E

  47. “Bobby Piton lives rent free in Monk’s head..” as an hilarious example of who it was you considered to be a sane and brilliant candidate. Someone who had “receipts”. Someone who was gonna blow the whole thing wide open.

  48. IL House Minority leader Tony McCombie, Dist. 89 received almost $120k from the National Education Association’s PAC since 2020.

    Also, Republican national committeeman Richard Porter says “… Is Trump therefore the best candidate for us to stop this injustice [weaponized DOJ]? I think the answer is no! DeSantis has proven he’s tough, he’s effective, he’s generally great on policy and he gets the problem. He doesn’t need to carry the baggage of the injustice — he’s free to point out how wrong the baggage is.

    “Florida under DeSantis has become the showpiece of Republican governance. His leadership stands in stark contrast to the Democrats. He’s young, has a great family and he has virtues Republicans generally admire. ”

    https://www.illinoisreview.com/illinoisreview/2023/08/il-gop-official-echoes-the-democrats-suggests-trump-is-running-for-president-to-avoid-jail-in-an-interview-during-gop-day-at-the-state-fair.html

  49. “gop official echoes the democrats suggests trump is running for president to avoid jail”

    It may not have been so much, back at his announcement. I have a feeling that the possibility has crossed his mind, increasingly so with the passage of time since then.

  50. It is said that former Gov. Bill Stratton ran for office after he lost in order to justify spending campaign money before the Feds got him.

  51. It sounds like Jeff can’t stand hearing the Mockinbird media constantly repeat Trump Trump Trump the same way they repeated Russia Russia Russia to beat you down mentally. What’s the difference between Trump and Desantis? Trump is a proven quantity. Desantis will become a swamp rat. People will never wake up to what is going on and will throw their vote away for unlikable Desantis. Jeff, you are now on team Avelar. Good luck with that.

    Breaking news for Avelar. Trump’s big Monday announcement will be in a court filing so start crying now. LOL

  52. Why not next month, or very soon the networks arrange a debate with Biden and Trump? Answer. No hope of that at all. Biden’s handlers, superiors would not allow it. Trump would demolish Biden. Biden cannot talk or argue or cannot think on his own, on his feet. He needs a very controlled setting with CUE cards and teleprompters. Biden is in reality, Howdy Doody. A puppett of his handlers.

  53. A guy named “monk”, for monkey(?) says that Biden and Trump seriously flawed? Really? Biden about 99 percent flawed vs one percent for Trump.

  56. “Biden about 99 percent flawed vs one percent for Trump.”

    You sound like George Wendt on Saturday Night Live doing one of the SuperFans routines.

    Arguing who Ditka could “take”.

    On and on, that a mini Ditka could take on just about everybody.

    Maybe even Jesus?

    Absurdity.

  57. Here you go trolls. Enjoy the show. You’re now hoodwinked into following Avelar down the path of DeSantis. LOL

    We were right about the lab leak.
    We were right about natural immunity.
    We were right about masks.
    We were right about lockdowns.
    We were right about the vaccines.
    We were right about boosters.
    We were right about them faking COVID numbers.
    We were right about the deadly hospital protocol.
    We were right about ivermectin.
    We were right about evil Dr. Fauci.
    We were right about the evil WHO.
    We were right about it being a world power grab.

    Guess who was wrong about everything?

    Yep 👉 the government sheep “TrUsT tHe sCieNCe” cult.

  58. Imagine the panic at Fox News right now.

    They have to sell 1% red-faced Chris Christie screaming at the top of his lungs and 2% Pence talking about how holy he is over a dream ticket Trump /Tucker interview.

    LOL. I know I’m not tuned to FOX like Avelar will be.

  62. I love it Poop. Do you see election interference yet? Now incompetent Katie Hobbs who cheated her election for governor is getting on the bandwagon. Do you think Fani Willis is fundraising off her indictment?

  65. CPT, God has given Avelar a purpose. It’s to spread stupidity on a blog that when Cal gets called he will cede control to an idiot that fancies himself as a smart guy. Don’t worry. The troll farm will follow an idiot blindly. Avelar can’t cut it on X so he comes to the blog to bloviate his expertise. He’s likely still crying that Laura Loomer owned him on Twitter.

  66. “Do you think Fani Willis is fundraising off her indictment?”

    No, but tRumpty still is. Even though he won’t tell you that.

  70. Does this guy still use the phony, silly, “from the desk of”?

  72. Instead of participating in the Debate, Trump will be interviewed by Tucker Carlson on Twitter at the same time the Debate is airing. Genius move. Debate Ratings on the network(s) will be dismal without Trump.

  73. I’ll watch Twitter as Avelar is glued to FOX fawning over Desanctimonious.

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